Kendry Morales Alleges Comeback. Halolinks
by Rev Halofan on Sep 28, 2011 3:19 AM PDT
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PrintAttack of the Kendry Morales articles:
Morales Improving After Second Surgery, But No Timetable For Return
The LA Times has two articles that are almost the same but with two different headlines because The Times is a total google hits Ho-Bag of an operation.
Kendrys Morales Making Big Progress Toward Returning
Article #2 from Mike DiGiHOvanna at The Times tabloid exaggeration sheet.
| morales, spring, angels - Sports - The Orange County Register
I have to reproduce exactly above the page headline from the OC Register to show they not only are losing the great google chase, they are being conned by whoever is doing their website to garner even a modicum of traffic. Anyway, this is their me me me me too Kendrys Morales article. I wonder if the OCR will exist at all in a year or two. The Times is gaming it to maintain traffic. The OCR is dawdling.
After reading all three I am still not in the Kendry Komeback Kamp.
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"to get a player of Vernon's caliber, you have to give up some talent."
I want that tattooed on Scioscia’s eyeball.
That really pisses me off
It shows a lack of understanding of what value is or he is just lying. Most likely coach speak.
Also Vernon could be had for free. UGH.
I'd like to DFA Reagins
Is it ok for me to say ...
Oh god I hope not.
In the long run men hit only what they aim at. Therefore, though they should fail immediately, they had better aim at something high.
Walden
by matthiasstephan on Sep 28, 2011 4:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Let me see....
There’s glee that Kendrys is walking good; and his first visit to the Angels was this past week?
When the guy is running full-speed and actively involved with the team, let me know. Otherwise, who cares. As Kendrys himself notes: he hasn’t played baseball in two years……
From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average
Hey Matt
are you intentionally misspelling Kendrys’ name, or is this a retro links?
Well, come see a fat old man some time!
Kendry was a helluva player. (For a year)
But I’ve never seen this Kendrys guy play….
I woke up in a great mood; I don't know what the hell happened.
HIghly doubt kendrys will be ready by spring.
Trade for prospects to a club willing to take a chance.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
Really? I thought this line would be music to your ears:
He’s bouncing around much better than we anticipated.
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by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Literally bouncing…from the weight he’s gained…
"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca
by migfig on Sep 28, 2011 9:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
boing. boing. boing. pop.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Sep 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Rob McMillan is Scareduck.
That explains so much.
I had a disagreement with him on FB regarding Scioscia. If I’d known who he was I wouldn’t have bothered.
THIS… IS… ANAHEIM!!
Great article about Napoli by Mike DiGiovanna in the L.A.Times (but he's a little late to the party).
But his sub-headline reads: “Many consider dealing Napoli for the under-performing Vernon Wells one of the worst trades in team history.”
I wanted to fix it:
“Many consider dealing Napoli for the under-performing Vernon Wells one of the worst trades in team MLB history.
There.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Link to Mrs. Santana doesn't work for me.
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Jose Mota is there for everything.
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by migfig on Sep 28, 2011 9:21 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ervin's English is better
than Mathis’s talkin out loud.
by Rev Halofan on Sep 28, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Never heard Mathis talk, I don't think
link plz
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
He is outstanding
in a very literal sense, of course.
In that he ‘stands out’ for the crowd in terms of how utterly, absolutely, astonishingly awful he is.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not on board with the KKK!
the “Kendry Komeback Kamp”! On a side note, I hope Mike Scioscia is haunted by the ghost of Nap’s bat!!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Sep 28, 2011 8:18 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Did someone say Kendry Morales?
I hope he is ready by spring training and TURBO learns how to play another position, having them both back and healthy would be killer.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you are back!
I'd like to DFA Reagins
by hauldog on Sep 28, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Never left, just haven't really posted.
I still drop by every day and read for a while, call it my daily fix :)
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who WAS that Masked Morales fan?
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
That my friend is a great mystery!
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am totally in the Kendrys Komeback Kamp
Because we need him. End of story.
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I am totally in this Kamp as well, my brother
Can we all try to be positive about something, for Jeebus’ sake.
It’s just too cool here to bash on everything, it seems.
We’re not going to pick up Fielder or Albert; We Need More Kowbell (again)!!!!
I say we all bash you now for bashing on the bashers!!
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
nope, unfortunately
I’m surprised there was never a HH meetup for a game. I was under the impression those kind of things happened at least once a season. I’m blaming Wells for this.
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
With Santana's broken English
I’m honestly a bit surprised he married someone who (certainly looks like) it’s her first language.
But yeah, she’s pretty hot.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 9:11 AM PDT reply actions
Really?
First off, he’s fucking millionaire.
If that’s not enough, is the cave you been living in CKOD without couples who may have a different first language?
Also, how do you know she’s not bi-lingual.
C’mon man!
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Sep 28, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Sep 28, 2011 9:36 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
A little defensive, maybe?
I said I was a “bit surprised.”
Not HOLY FUCK WHAT IS THIS MYSTERIOUS MAN DOING DEFILING MY NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKING PURE BRED WHITE FEMALE?
Strictly playing the percentages, it is, at least somewhat, outside the norm. It’s not like I’m EXPECTING him to conform to some bigoted social standard.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Good lord
this whole thread is getting testy over maybe the most benign CKOD post to date.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, I don't know what your talking about... His wife looks hispanic!
She looks like she’s Venezuelan! Maybe Bobby hooked him up!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Sep 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
http://www.playerwives.com/mlb/los-angeles-angels-of-anaheim/ervin-santanas-wife-amy-santana/
Fail
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Sep 28, 2011 9:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lucky ass Ryan Braun..
No wonder he’s hitting like a champ..
Representing the Angels in Sin City.
by maze88 on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Seriously!
"Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in" -George Costanza
by Howie's Batting Title on Sep 28, 2011 10:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
We’ve also heard that Amy may have been a waitress at the Hooters across the street from Angel Stadium.
The Orange hot pants did him in.
by mustang6944 on Sep 28, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
was thinking the same
looks hispanic to me
IMPOSTER!!!
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
But Santana speaks better English
than most Hispanic players in the lineup. And he tries hard. He doesn’t use a translator during his post-game interviews. I admire Hispanic players who try hard to speak English since it’s the first language of the country they’re in.
Who could ever forget “f*ck it, let’s pitch!”?
I completely agree
Santana and FRod 2 have worked very hard to learn the language and have done so pretty well (2 particularly). It shows that he wants to become part of America and American culture, not just reap the benefits.
His English has gotten progressively better year over year.
I honestly don’t get the multiple digs in this thread at someone like Ervin who has made a genuine effort to become bilingual, despite shitty education and being rich enough not to have to make the effort.
Feels defensive and hillbilly to me — the OC fan base should just get over it and start supporting the kids like Santana that actually try.
by Turks Teeth on Sep 28, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
I think a lot of that would be gone...
…if a certain bunt in 2008 had gone a little differently.
But, I agree that it’s mostly undeserved.
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by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually hadn't heard his English outside of the one famous video
if he speaks it pretty well, then I’d be wrong.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
They all speak English.
They are either not comfortable speaking in front of the media or they want to avoid the media if they can. They all make somewhat of an effort to better communicate with their teammates. But Ervin especially has. Aybar too. They both speak a decent English.
The 2011 Angels, the biggest cocktease ever.
by Angelsrthebest101 on Sep 28, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sanatana would speak better english at home, if he had to.
Having to speak a second language for an interview, or in a non familiar situation Is different than speaking it at home with friends, and family, on subjects you are knowledgeable, and comfortable, with.
Who here gets nervous with sweaty palms, and butterflies in the tum tum, when you speak in public with your only language?
Why is it that everything you say is completely fucking retarded?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Sep 28, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Because it's not
I wasn’t aware that Santana spoke even “passable” English. The entirety of my Ervin Santana experience is the “fuck it let’s pitch” speech. Which was barely coherent.
It is surprising, if we’re just playing the percentages, that he would be married to someone who doesn’t speak the same language is a bit surprising. If he speaks it fairly well, and has made strong leaps forward, then that obviously changes this, as this thread has pointed out.
Excuse me for being ignorant of a player’s language proficiencies. And for being a “bit surprised” (the extent of my MASSIVE INSENSITIVE POST above) at two people married to each other who don’t speak the same language…which I HAD believed to be the case. That’s not racial naivete, it’s not culturally insensitive, it’s not even fucking politically incorrect…it’s a statement of a “BIT OF SURPRISE” that two people who don’t speak the same language were married.
Yes, how “fucking retarded” of me.
Fuck yourself.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
whats surprising to me is that you don't think she is hispanic because
her shade of skin is a little lighter than what you seem to think all hispanics should look like. like HBT said, and I agreed with, she totally looks hispanic to me.
either way, this conversation is pretty stupid
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
What picture are you guys going off of:
The one on the left is his wife.
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by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
ummm, the one that was linked
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, that's his wife above
and I’m hardly being a bigot or prejudice or simply playing stereotypes if I say she doesn’t look hispanic.
As for the one that was linked?
Well, if I went by that one, I would have to assume that his wife was someone in the Matrix, cuz this is all I got:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg54/RoboCoppola/santanawife.png
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Sep 28, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Aussie flag basket... Must be Choppers.
CKoD is surprised Rich’s wife doesnt look like this—
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Sep 28, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Give it a fucking rest
it takes a pretty big goddamn PC pansy to draw anything remotely objectionable to my initial post.
That it’s gone this far is more a testament to YOUR dig for controversy than it is anything else.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
your intitial post was not well-thought-out
language barriers in relationship are regularly occurring things and your post made it sound like such a relationship was quite far from the norm.
Not the end of the world but then you got strident and the result = you are getting lots of shit, both for the post and for the intense defense of shaky analysis.
by Rev Halofan on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
My initial post was only "not well thought out"
if I was keenly aware of Santana’s language proficiencies. As I said, I’ve only ever heard him give the ‘fuck it let’s pitch’ speech, which was hardly coherent English.
It’s up there in black and white for you to see…all I said was I was a “bit surprised” that two people speaking different languages would get married. That’s it. You can simplify that to “language barriers in a relationship” if you want…but people getting married who don’t speak the same English ARE a “bit surprising” (my exact words). That’s it.
The problem was 1) I didn’t know Santana spoke English, from (dated) evidence, and 2) The only picture I saw of his wife (not the broken link) she looks like an OC strike force blonde.
You’ll have to excuse the defensiveness…when you’re accused of stereotyping an entire race of people (with no basis) and being “completely fucking retarded,” that tends to happen.
Seriously “a bit surprised” set this off. That’s not my fucking fault.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
2 Questions
1. Are you aware of the site rules on only 1 f-bomb per month?
2. How do you object to the criticism that your post was not well thought out by saying that’s true only if you were keenly aware of Santana’s language proficiencies? That was the foundation of your statement of surprise, which was built on only 1 piece of dated evidence.
Arte Went Biblical sounded nice until it was clear it didn't involve sitting the twenty-three million dollar man.
If you're ignorant of your own ignorance
that doesn’t mean the post wasn’t well thought out…in fact, it means I had the sense to not just pick on any random hispanic player, but rather one I had seen documentation of already speaking in broken English. So, as far as I knew, based on SOMETHING, it wasn’t unreasonable to, for the billionth time, be merely “A BIT SURPRISED.”
After someone said he spoke English well (or significantly better), that stood to be the end of it. That was it. I even said
I actually hadn’t heard his English outside of the one famous video
if he speaks it pretty well, then I’d be wrong.
It was done…had I not been called “fucking retarded” and accused of, essentially, bigotry. Of course I was defensive. Who wouldn’t be? My God…I said I was a “bit surprised.” And suddenly I’m a bigot.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops
I said
I actually hadn’t heard his English outside of the one famous video
if he speaks it pretty well, then I’d be wrong.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
have you ever heard her speak?
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
complexions speak louder than words
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
zoom zoooom zooooom
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
ENHANCE?
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by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
People are pouring it on now
just to make sure they can show all their brown friends SEE LOOK I BE DEFENDING YO PEEPS, CAN I DATE YER LIL SISTER NOW? HUH CAN I HUH SOME OF MY BEST BLOWJOBS ARE BL— – - UH, DUDE, BRO I AM DOWN WITH THE CAUSE.
you've made better posts than this
but dammit, I’m not going to go looking for them
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
ZOMG
hit that choppppppah!
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Well now she certainly does
I appreciate the asshole comment from 2pints about how I “seem” to think all Hispanics look a certain way, though.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks man
I appreciate the fact that you come off as an asshole in about 90% of your posts. good on ya!
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Feel free to be an asshole about baseball for all I care
but i’ll stop short of accusing some stranger of stereotyping racial appearances.
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by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
CKOD: always the better man
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Even I wouldn't go THAT far
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by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
This thread is increasing its creepy factor exponentially with each post
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by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
This is like an awkward Thanksgiving come election season.
Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.
yes it is. SHUT THE FUCK UP BOYS, KISS & MAKE UP....THIS WHOLE THING IS MORONIC. And go to your rooms and clean them
I'm an Angels fan
by ladybug on Sep 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ma! The meatloaf!!!
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by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Note to self: Do *NOT* get ladybug mad at me before her pain meds have had a chance to kick in
If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?
Sorry for this:
It is surprising, if we’re just playing the percentages, that he would be married to someone who doesn’t speak the same language is a bit surprising.
Typefail.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah that's kind of dumb dude. open your world view
I have best friends that went to other countries to teach or perform missionary work and met a signficant other who was native to that country and spoke an entirely different language and they fell in love. I mean it happens all the time. Americans go to europe and fall in love with someone from paris. A white guy here falls in love with a foreign exchange student. And it’s not like Ervin doesn’t speak english. Do you ever watch Angels baseball games? He speaks after each start, was on ESPN after he pitched a No-Hitter..how do you think he communicates with his catchers..speaking Vietnamese to Hank Conger? Plus what does color of skin have to do with ethnicity? Have you never seen Venezuelan, Mexican, Argentian women? At least half are blonde blue eyed.
Santana
speaks a lot more English than many of his teammates. If you haven’t noticed, he does all of his interviews in English, and has since he was a rookie…and he’s clearly learned a lot more since that first interview after his gem against the White Sox, when it looked like they’d completely exhausted his knowledge of the language after two questions.
I have an aunt from Ecuador
Most of her family is as fair skinned as Ervin’s wife. She could very easily be a Spanish speaker.
Santana speaks fairly good English
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
Quentin flied out to center?
You don’t say.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
You can try to have me banned I suppose
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i pray management sees the light
it’s not that Napoli is killing it this year, it’s that the rangers have a potent lineup all around him AND he gets the bonus of getting to play a lot in Arlington. essentially he was the power guy on our team and maybe didn’t see the pitches he’s seeing now. i wonder how many times the laugh track goes on when opposing pitching staffs have scouted our lineup the night before.
the season is over….time to pray for a miracle of an off season.
I think you proceed as if Kendrys will not be a full-timer
I do not want another limp offense because our GM lives in a fairytale world where people coming off serious injuries can be counted on
RIP Nick Adenhart
I think you consider Kendrys like a prospect at this point.
Go into 2012 with Trumbo your anticipated 1B (even though, if he can play in the offseason, you hope he can learn another position) and if Morales can play, you figure it out from there. If Kendrys come back and hit .270 with 20 homers, that would be huge. But if not, you proceed with the youth movement.
Side note: The OC Register will probably get bought by Medianews, who will consolidate its papers with the OC Register and continue its attempt to surround the LA Times with various local papers in the greater L.A. area.
.270 with 20 HRs would be awful
He doesn’t take walks, he is not fast nor has good baserunning abilities and his defense is not even close to fantastic.
That would be bottom tier of all first baseman in baseball, and probably worse than Trumbo. Pass. Prince please.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I would think of Trumbo as the 1B until some suplanted him.
Morales is a DH in my mind until he proves he can play 1B and Trumbo is moved. If Morales came back and gave us .270 batting average, with 20 homers, 70-80 RBIs, and a .330 OBP, I would take that. Obviously, if the option is we pay $180 million for Prince Fielder to come in and be a star, who wouldn’t take that over anyone on our team right now? But I don’t think that will happen. In lieu of that, I will take a first year return of Morales at those numbers, hoping he improves.
Josh Hamilton missed two straight years of baseball and parts of two more
Since then, he’s become one of the best hitters in baseball and is the reigning AL MVP. In his only full season, Morales displayed a level of skill that put him in a similar tier or just below. He’s 28, not 38. If he can make it back to the lineup and stay healthy, he’ll be fine.
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by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to remember this
because in a couple months after the Halos don’t do much in the offseason I fully expect Reagins to repeat this verbatim
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just preparing you guys
I’m not saying they should bank on it, but I think everyone’s fears about his potential performance are somewhat unwarranted. He may get off to a slow start, but if he can play, he’ll figure it out.
Besides, all this requires is Morales continuing to work with his doctors and trainers. It doesn’t involve Tony dealing with an agent or Arte actually competing financially for top-tier players. Which one do you guys think is most likely to happen?
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Last time they banked on it
We had to “give up some talent for a player of Vernon’s caliber.”
Ugh. I am so sick of how this organization has managed the corner infield positions. What happened to Morales was not their fault, but just about everything else is. We haven’t seen stability in almost a decade.
I don't want the FO to bank on it
But I don’t think I want 5 years of Aramis Ramirez either. I just want them to be smart.
Maybe I should close my eyes ’til March.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Then you miss the PB and Trout outfield debut
and that is not worth missing.
by mustang6944 on Sep 28, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Arbitration
Isn’t Kendrys up for Arbitration?
by mustang6944 on Sep 28, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
IF Healthy
There’s no reason to believe that Morales won’t pick up right where he left off.
Missing a few years in the prime of their careers didn’t exactly doom these guys…
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dimagjo01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/willite01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/greenha01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/musiast01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mizejo01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/slaugen01.shtml
EXCELLENT point
as much as i am down on Kendry (as I believe he is not fully healed because previous reports were that he was close to a hundred percent and then BOOM a second surgery is needed), I think it is a MAJOR conceit of baseball to think that “being away” somehow deadens one’s skills. It is more a means to justify severing relationships with mediocre players.
zomg
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And considering the wear-and-tear over the course of a career
Maybe a couple years off ends up being a GOOD thing, in the end…
Only if you can keep the player from naturally aging.
Against stupidity the very Gods themselves toil in vain.
Obviously it's better to be playing during prime years
I just wonder how much more career longevity is gained by having the time off.
I disagree.
There is a reason that pitchers are always ahead of hitters every Spring.
Against stupidity the very Gods themselves toil in vain.
So Maybe
it takes him a week or two longer to get back up to speed. But missing two or three years in the primes of their careers didn’t seem to have any impact (other than on their career numbers) for numerous players who went off to fight the nips & krauts.
You could have a point.
Although maybe the impact of WWII on any individual was somewhat lessened by so many players taking off at the same time.
Against stupidity the very Gods themselves toil in vain.
There was
no advanced scouting then, no comprehensive data bases like pitch f/x, a lot less breaking pitches, less usage of bullpens, fastballs were slower, defense was limited by lack of preventative shifts/placement/spray charts.
I mean I could go on, but whats the point. The game just is not the same as it was in 1940.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
by PhiSlamma on Sep 30, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but players were grittier and played the game the right way back then.
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
Josh Hamilton is a total freak of history
Not the most favorable comparison, waiting for lightning to strike twice.
I admit I am way on the optimistic side of the scale (because we have few alternatives)
But I think a lot of folks are being a little too quick to write him off. The problem that forced the second surgery was with his ability to run. He was able to swing just fine according to all reports. My point is that while his timing and pitch recognition may be off for a bit, it’s not unheard for a young, very talented player to make a successful return after a similar hiatus.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Sep 28, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think I'm one of those people
On the contrary, I say if Morales looks healthy this winter, then try to flip Trumbo for someone who better fits the team’s needs.
Yup
Trumbo’s value may never be higher while he’s in an Angels’ uniform (well, it was higher before the broken foot). His ceiling is below Morales’, so if Morales is healthy, let’s get ourselves a fifth starter and stop a potential logjam before it starts.
And Trumbo at third isn’t a real solution. Even an offseason of workouts over there (which he won’t get with the foot problem) leaves us with the very-real probability of a Mark Reynolds on the hot corner.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I like being optimistic about Morales
but not relying on him. I don’t think the team should give up on him because he could still hit 30 homers and bat .290. If he doesn’t and still hits something like .270 with 20 bombs, it would be salvageable. He probably isn’t going to be Josh Hamilton, but it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that he remains a great hitter.
With Morales' patience
.270 with 20HR is a .750OPS.
Which we could get with Trumbo just fine.
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 28, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
What you said
.750 OPS will not save this team.
Fielder will.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
That is the exception
to the rule that hitting a fastball is easy with any time off, much less multiple years.
Morales should only be seen as a potential bonus that will create depth and trading opportunities if productive and only that. There should be no pressure or no hopes of him contributing even 80% of his top 5 MVP finish year.
This team can pitch, it needs hitting. Two of the best hitters in the MLB are free agents. Sign one. I will continue repeating this sentiment until they are both signed by other clubs, then I will cry myself to sleep.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
I'd take that
Over what we will get from Bobby Abreu
by mustang6944 on Sep 28, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike wil take care of this the "Traditional Way".
Kendrys got hurt while the starter at FirstBase. It is his position until he gives it up.
Too much on his plate
Real Life called him away.
by Rev Halofan on Sep 28, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
so this is what is sounds like
when doves cry
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
Sosh makes a point I haven't heard before
He says Naps couldn’t catch because he was hurt. In that case, with Morales supposedly coming back to play 1B and a historicaly more consistent Abreu to DH, Napoli would have been locked out of the lineup a lot.
Did the Angels think he was damaged goods and couldn’t handle life behind the plate? After all, he did have injuries in consecutive years and Texas hasn’t had him behing the plate much either.
It still blew up in their faces, but it's an explanation I hadn't thought of before.
Perhaps the Soth and Ninja thought they were giving Toronto an injury plagued player and a horrible defensive left fielder in exchange for a huge contract. In that light, at least the reasoning becomes clearer.
Well, at that level it is still bullshit reasoning.
You might as well give them credit for thinking that Naps was a Dark Overlord Evil Alien Invader stuffed inside a mansuit, walking the face of this planet and stealing human souls by sucking them in through his butt. So, to save themselves, they were perfectly sane and rational for thinking that the best way to react was to send him off to eradicate Canadians.
Having a bad opening position does not make the following move a good one. And Naps just spent 2011 with only a single injury, one trip to the 15-day DL for a muscle strain. He could have been out for 4 months and STILL been more productive than a year’s worth of Mathis.
Against stupidity the very Gods themselves toil in vain.
But he also didn't catch very much in Texas.
He caught more games in Anaheim every single season than he did this year in Texas, and that includes last year when he had to take over at 1B for Morales.
I think there’s actually quite a bit of reason to suspect that Napoli couldn’t physically handle catching more than 75 or so games a season.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
The same has always been said about Izturis, and he is having a career high in games played.
Meanwhile, what is this “…quite a bit of reason to suspect that Napoli couldn’t physically handle catching more than 75 games a season”??
Napoli played with the Halos from 2006 through 2010. In all that time he was on the DL exactly 3 times. One of those times was an ankle sprain while sliding into home plate while running the bases, and one of those was a pulled hammy probably from lack of stretching just after coming back form the sprained ankle. Meanwhile, he played all of 2009 and 2010 injury free.
Against stupidity the very Gods themselves toil in vain.
First of all, because that's what Scioscia has said
He played only 66 games at catcher in 2010. In 2009 he played more games at catcher than at any other point in his career and he looked done by the end of the season. At the end of July he had played 75 games, and he proceeded to OPS about .700 the rest of the season, compared to .842 for the whole season.
Guys don’t have to go on the DL to play hurt. It happens all the time. From things Scioscia has said and from Napoli’s usage pattern, it makes a lot of sense that the Angels were worried about how Napoli would hold up catching full time.
And then it makes even more sense when you look at the fact that he caught only 60 games in Texas, despite having a great relationship with the pitchers and having a solid defensive season overall.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Let me add to that by saying:
I don’t think Scioscia is being honest when he says he valued Napoli’s defense. There’s plenty of evidence that points to the fact that he thought Napoli had a lot of things to work on. And surely that had an impact on Naps’ playing time.
But I also think, based on this quote and the way Napoli has been played throughout his career (including this season with Texas) that there is doubt about his durability. I remember someone talking about a leg issue he had one season (probably the hammy you referred to), and that it affected his play behind the plate well after he came off the DL.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Another thing we'll never know is how often he was less than 100%
We can assume that Sosh loves Mathis, but if Naps was not up to the task, Sosh’s hands were tied. Naps did have hot streaks followed by cold-as-hell streaks. Were those normal, or aches and pains? The fact that he had his best year offensively while spending the least amount of time behind the plate my not be a coincidence.
Holy Shit
How did this thread become dominated with whether or not Voodoo speaks English? What’s really important is whether or not he understands the binary language of moisture vaporators…..
From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average
CKOD is not the droid you're looking for
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by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 28, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Classic response!
From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average
I'm predicting big things for Morales in 2012.
Notably a walkoff grandslam. It’s going to be so exciting watching him throw his arms into the air, as he hits first base, pointing to the crowd as everyone goes crazy. Doing the Kirk Gibson fist pump as he rounds second base, jubilation everywhere. And as he comes up on third base, he stumbles over the bag, tripping awkwardly, and breaking his neck.
I've got nothing.
You're dark
But this is more likely than Kendrys being the regular first basemen next year
"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter
easy with the color profiling bro
a forum is on edge
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
and everyone will claim it was howie that somehow morphed into third base form to cause it.
Somewhere, right now, Mickey Hatcher is ruining a swing.
by Quinlan's Goofy Swing on Sep 28, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
Weaver: “He left here with a sour taste in his mouth, with all that talk about how he wasn’t a good defensive catcher.”
Meanwhile, Scioscia…“…insists he always valued Napoli’s defense…”
So, if it wasn’t Sosh and it wasn’t the pitching staff, who was it that was bad-mouthing Naps? Us fans? Maybe Lyle?
Something smells rotten in them thar quotes.
Against stupidity the very Gods themselves toil in vain.
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