2011 Angels: What Went RIGHT
In response to Rev's article ranking the bad decisions and unfortunate events that led to the Angel's second couch-warming off season in a row, I would like to begin a discussion about what went right in 2011. It's not that I disagree with Rev, nor am I a deluded optimist, but for my health's sake, I prefer not to revel too long in negativity. I'd rather move on in the grieving process toward acceptance, and look for the silver lining in this golden-haloed, 50th anniversary season of Angels baseball. So, here are some of what I consider to be the highlights of the season. I may not be able to come up with 10, but I'll start. Please add your own:
1) Ervin Santana's no-hitter. I watched that morning game alone with my 1 year Baby Manatee. I think even she knew that something special was happening. It transcended all the typical frustrations of this 2011 team, and it put some fear in hitters across the league, knowing that our THIRD starter is that good. It gave some hope that maybe a team built on pitching and defense really can succeed.
2) Mark Trumbo's pending rookie-of-the-year campaign. I've seen articles from both FS and ESPN pinning him as the front runner for the award, with competition mainly from Ivan Nova. In some ways, Trumbo was Wally Joyner reincarnate, and watching him play this season brought me back in fits and spurts to the simplistic childhood love I had for baseball back in the days of Wally World.
3) Jered Weaver's re-signing. Aside from commanding the role of staff ace, and giving Cy Young caliber outings almost every time he took the hill, WTY shocked us all by re-signing mid-season for a nice hometown discount. He made us all fall in love with his "how much do you need?" press conference. This gives us hope for the future. Let us also not forget two minor victories that tie in with this: we succeeded in signing a Boras client, and the FO departed from its often infuriating policy of not negotiating contracts during the season.
4) Mike Trout's call-up. At only 19 years old, Trout was the exciting mid-season call up this year, not to take anything away from Bourjos who is still deserving of his own credit. He showed flashes of what he is almost certain to become, a 5 tool mainstay in the line-up for years to come. With his 2 HR game and his flashing leather, he expunged the last of the woes over the failed Brandon Wood experiment, and restored our confidence in our minor league system.
5) Howie Kendrick's all-star season. I know there are still Halos Heaven Howie Haters out there, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out why. Although he finished the season with a sub .300 average, and still failed to win that batting title that other people promised he would win someday, Howie took an already successful career to a new level. He showed greater versatility with a number of starts at 1B and LF, and at the same time seemed to improve his range at 2B. He showed that he can hit almost anywhere in the line-up, and he showed some more power, turning some of those doubles he loves so much into a career high 18 home runs.
Each of these highlights were not only exciting to watch at the time, but give us a glimmer of hope. The future may not be as bad as some of the pessimists believe. We have a number of effective veterans and a vibrant group of young players who seem to be establishing themselves as legitimate big-leaguers.
If the FO can break the pattern of great move>putrid move>great move>putrid move, and follow up Weaver's re-signing with one or two other smart signings this off season (as well as one or two necessary releases), I am confident that we will retake the division and hopefully be the last team standing at the end of October 2012.
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Refreshing read
I’ve been thinking maybe we needed a new cast to take us past the playoff faliures we have witnessed over the last few years. In the late 90’s did we look like a world series team? not really, but look what happened.
Bourjos, Trout, Trumbo, Weaver will take us to the long awaited day when Jordan Walden blasts a 101mph heater by the last batter of the fall classic
"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black
by the king of CERA on Sep 29, 2011 1:33 AM PDT reply actions
somehow boras became more humanlike
did not see that one coming…
6) Jerome Williams' Discovery
Although it was just a small sample size, he did go 4-0 with a 3.68ERA all while giving hope of maybe becoming a legit 4th or 5th starter next season.
by C.A._Rep_Los_ANGELS on Sep 29, 2011 3:23 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
7) Jered Weaver Getting Crazy in Detroit
That was one of my favorite games all year. I love Weav’s intensity and competitiveness and seeing him give us a new rivalry to look forward to was awesome. I hate Verlander, Avila, and Ordoñez so much because of this game now but I love how Leiland stuck up for Aybar and called his late inning bunt a “Great play”.
by C.A._Rep_Los_ANGELS on Sep 29, 2011 3:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
he also had an ERA just over one when starting at home
"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black
by the king of CERA on Sep 29, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
As Ricky Bobby says:
If you ain’t first, you’re last.
From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average
#8 P-BO!
dude was awesome on defense & offense.
i have a trumboner.
by truhalo on Sep 29, 2011 6:51 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
THIS ^^^^^^
Look at his range: http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/angels/post/_/id/3434/bourjos-has-them-covered
WOW!
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Sep 29, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I was at the game mentioned in that piece, with Moondoggy's kids.
That was such an epic snag by Bourjos.
"And that’s why to hell with the traffic, Diane, we’re staying until the end of the game, and that’s final." ~brokenyard, 8/18/11
I was definitely gonna bring up P-Bo.
The big question with him last year was can he hit. I think most people here didn’t expect him to hit .270 in his first full year. .270 ain’t all that great but didn’t he hit like .200 in his rookie year. His defense is what everyone was excited about and so any offense is a big plus. Now if only Mathis could hit .270… Who am i kidding.. If only he could hit .200….
Should change my screen name to Stuck with Premium.
by stuck in Romania on Sep 29, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Combined with the # of runs he takes away in CF, I'm happy with .271 from Pete.
He also had 59 extra base hits and 22 stolen bases. That’s definitely contributing.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Sep 29, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Agree
After his rookie year, I was preparing myself for Garry Pettis part deux. Bourjos showed us so much more. The kid can rake. It makes me look forward to what he can do next year.
by righteous halo on Sep 29, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I am still blown away he hit 12 HR this season
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 29, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
And 11 triples! That's even more impressive to me.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Oct 1, 2011 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions
not me
I knew he was ridiculously fast, but the power to hit it out really surprised me
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Oct 3, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by far my favorite Halo
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 29, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
And this was a rebuilding year
It was from the moment Kendrys was out for the season. To be eliminated in the last regular season series shows that a lot went right, but that we didn’t have enough to get over the hump.
When you see the implosion in Boston, it shows that overpaying is not the answer either. Our rookies were good, they just need a little more seasoning, cut out some of the deadwood, and bulk up on intestinal fortitude.
2012 can be a heck of a year.
Let's Go P-BO!
OR...Wells and Abreu can continue to decline...
and with Torii pushing 37, it might a shit year. Let’s hope not!
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Sep 29, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Please...
Wells, Abreu, and even Hunter are going to come to spring training in the BEST SHAPE OF THEIR LIVES! and have a complete turnaround.
by WhatShouldIThrowToday? on Sep 29, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Mathis is gonna "rake when it counts"
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Teams can't just call a bad year a rebuilding year.
They actually have to do some rebuilding.
Arte Went Biblical sounded nice until it was clear it didn't involve sitting the twenty-three million dollar man.
New position players everywhere
1st base, some seasoning at catcher, LF, lots of bullpen, and SP.
Tyler Chatwood
Garret Richards
Jordan Walden
Bobby Cassevah
Mark Trumbo
Peter Bourjos
Mike Trout
Hank Conger
All took away valuable MLB experience from their stay in the big league. A 30 HR Hitter, a hands down GG winner (Two for that matter) A possibly exciting future with our closer, the emergence of Cassevah, and Chatwoods solid start coupled with Richards flashes of brilliance are all signs of good things to come.
This year was very much a rebuilding year, and we managed to stay in contention until Game 160. Very succesful considering 2010
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Sep 29, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
That list would be more useful if you listed games played next to their names.
Trout watching Vernon Wells play does nothing for his advancement.
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
#9: Torii Hunter's Consistent Production and Defense
Torii was streaky throughout the year. Terrible June and July, awesome August, etc. However, in the end, Torii’s production stayed pretty consistent to what he’s done the entire time as an Angel. The numbers dipped ever so slightly but I believe numbers were down throughout the league so its expected. That being said he once again hit 23 HRs for us and knocked in 80+ RBI’s like he’s done the past 4 years for the Halos.
Plus, his adjustment to RF and NEVER being a ego-maniac are all positives to Torii’s legacy as a Halo.
Considering that we only have Torii for one more year, I think its nice to know that Torii produced about as well as we expected through a majority of his contract. Good move, TR (gasp!)
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Sep 29, 2011 7:35 AM PDT reply actions
And 15 assists from RF!
Torii got show off his arm this year. All those years in CF, he was never talked about as having a dangerous arm, but not a bad arm either. However, moving to RF, all of the sudden he was almost impossible to run on. Deadly accuracy.
I think center fielders get themselves out of good throwing position more regularly than LF and RF because they have to cover more ground and go back on more balls than the corner positions. Plus, on throws to home plate, you have to account for getting the ball over the mound. So, Torii was in better position to make good throws more often this season, and he made the most of it.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Sep 29, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Torii doesn't get enough love as a leader.
He is too friendly that he probably doesn’t light a fire under his teammates…but while we know Peter is a naturally gifted center fielder, Torii was one of the best for the past decade and he NEVER said anything about moving to right field and he is continuously seen mentoring Peter on how to play center field. You look at other guys like Jorge Posada who get pissed for not playing catcher or getting moved down the order and you can appreciate Torii’s professionalism. Hey and in the time he has been here he talks to the media, doesn’t call out teammates, fans or the front office. He is not superstar money, but he has captured what I think the Angels are always about.
Torii just says dumb racist shit instead....
still love em tho!
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Sep 30, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
#10 Boston blowing a 9 game lead in the Wild Card
karma is a bitch you damn bean eaters
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Sep 29, 2011 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
MY FAVORITE POST OF YOUR THIS YEAR!!!!
What an epic collapse!!!
(It beats our collapse in ’95 big time)
Totally awesome
It hopefully takes a lot of heat off `95.
And if we can’t go to the playoffs, then Bosux collapsing was the best part of the end of the season.
Go Tampa Bay!
by Halo Hurricane on Sep 29, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm already Jonesing for the Angels to play again.
Despite the Wells/Mathis foul taste left from this season, the overall starting pitching kept us much closer to the playoffs than it ever felt like we should be, and the youngsters coming up and injecting some fire into the tired bones of the team gave a healthy dose of optimism for the future.
At the end of the day, win or lose, I need my Angels fix!
DAMMIT, NEXT SEASON HURRY UP AND GET HERE!!!
The end of the Mathis era!
Mike Trout- The Man, The NOW, The Legend
by miketrout on Sep 29, 2011 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
September 10th, 2011
After 6 1/2 half tense innings of Haren vs. Sabathia, the Halos smashed the Skanks bullpen and went on to a big win. That, coupled with a Texas loss, cut the AL West lead to 1 1/2 games.
That night at the big A was the high water mark; my favorite of the season. The crowd had life and energy and the West looked winnable. My feet barely touched the parking lot as I walked out that night.
We may not have pulled out the West, but that night provided that child-like joy that only your favorite team in a pennant race can bring.
by JeffJoiner on Sep 29, 2011 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This season was one of the most frustrating seasons I have ever watched.
To always be “in it” to just fade each time we reached the top was torturous. But at the same time, it instilled a lot of hope. Yes, we are stuck with Vernon Wells. Yes, we have too much money tied up in old guys. But the young guys look great, our pitching is in a great position and some of those bad contracts come off this year and even more next year. If we make the proper adjustments in 2012, I feel good about our team going forward.
The youngins' added excitement to a frustrating season
Add the potential of Kmo to Trumbo, Bourjos, and Trout and you are entitled to some optimism, especially with our core starting pitching. But somewhere we need to find some clutch hitting other than Maicer. Howie put up nice numbers but I can’t say I have any confidence in him late in any game in a critical situation. He just doesn’t have good AB’s. That goes triple for Aybar. His legacy is to FAIL in the clutch. Both are good when the pressure is NOT on, but if we get back to the postseason you need guys who can handle the stress and have good AB’s against playoff caliber pitching. I know I am preaching to the choir if I mention our catching situation, and it was fitting that Naps put a spotlight on that black-hole. Here’s to hoping that mgmt honestly addresses the problem areas.
wherever you go, there you are
by OC Awhole1 on Sep 29, 2011 11:26 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Too soon to write this list.
There are 3 months left in the year where Arte could fire Tony Reagins, which would easily take first place on this list.
Arte Went Biblical sounded nice until it was clear it didn't involve sitting the twenty-three million dollar man.
Or Mathis could get in a career ending (not life ending) care accident.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Sep 29, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
"Care" accident?
That’s funny.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Sep 29, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Like good ol Kelvim Escobar with his blisters!
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by Rally Manatee on Oct 1, 2011 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks like the this list does in fact now have a new #1.
Tony Reagins is gone.
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
Nice work; there were good things about this year and there is hope for the future
“Hope is a great thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.” – Andy Dufresne
Defending maligned chants since 2009
What do you guys think about
A possible swap between the Angels and Red Sox involving Vernon Wells and John Lackey? Each guy has 3 years left on his deal and this move would free up a spot for Trout and save the Angels some money in the process. You’d have to imagine Lackey would pitch much better being back at Angel Stadium and in the AL West.
by Howie the Halo on Sep 29, 2011 12:14 PM PDT reply actions
Lackey is still dead to me
Living here in Boston, it’s ironic to me that Red Sox fans now hate John Lackey ten times more than we Angels fans ever did.
Personally, think that Lackey needs to go the NL.
When
Did Angels fans hate Lackey? He was a pretty beloved Angel before he left for New England. I realize Lackey isn’t the same pitcher, but swapping terrible contracts doesn’t seem so bad when it saves you almost $10MM, creates an opening for Trout, and adds another arm.
by Howie the Halo on Sep 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I soured on him before he bailed.
His attitude got worse and worse every year. By the time his FA year rolled around, I actually wanted him to leave cuz I was so tired of his crap.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Oct 1, 2011 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions
couldn't agree more
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Oct 3, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh, hate to be a downer but....
1) Ervin Santana’s no-hitter. I watched that morning game alone with my 1 year Baby Manatee. I think even she knew that something special was happening. It transcended all the typical frustrations of this 2011 team, and it put some fear in hitters across the league, knowing that our THIRD starter is that good. It gave some hope that maybe a team built on pitching and defense really can succeed.
Im terrified that his good, bad, good trend continues. Santana continues to be the AL version of Chad Billingsley.
2) Mark Trumbo’s pending rookie-of-the-year campaign. I’ve seen articles from both FS and ESPN pinning him as the front runner for the award, with competition mainly from Ivan Nova. In some ways, Trumbo was Wally Joyner reincarnate, and watching him play this season brought me back in fits and spurts to the simplistic childhood love I had for baseball back in the days of Wally World.
Its Hellickson’s award. Trumbo will not win especially with the Rays getting in to the playoffs.
3) Jered Weaver’s re-signing. Aside from commanding the role of staff ace, and giving Cy Young caliber outings almost every time he took the hill, WTY shocked us all by re-signing mid-season for a nice hometown discount. He made us all fall in love with his “how much do you need?” press conference. This gives us hope for the future. Let us also not forget two minor victories that tie in with this: we succeeded in signing a Boras client, and the FO departed from its often infuriating policy of not negotiating contracts during the season.
Agreed
4) Mike Trout’s call-up. At only 19 years old, Trout was the exciting mid-season call up this year, not to take anything away from Bourjos who is still deserving of his own credit. He showed flashes of what he is almost certain to become, a 5 tool mainstay in the line-up for years to come. With his 2 HR game and his flashing leather, he expunged the last of the woes over the failed Brandon Wood experiment, and restored our confidence in our minor league system.
Trout is clearly a 4 tool player at best, his arm is awful and will not improve. I am still extremely concerned with the systemic approach to hitting and the approach that Hatcher instills on young prospects who actually listen.
5) Howie Kendrick’s all-star season. I know there are still Halos Heaven Howie Haters out there, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out why. Although he finished the season with a sub .300 average, and still failed to win that batting title that other people promised he would win someday, Howie took an already successful career to a new level. He showed greater versatility with a number of starts at 1B and LF, and at the same time seemed to improve his range at 2B. He showed that he can hit almost anywhere in the line-up, and he showed some more power, turning some of those doubles he loves so much into a career high 18 home runs.
Im not sure where to put Kendrick in any lineup, as he seems to be a weird tweener. Howie hits, but does not walk. HIs power isnt amazing but isnt bad either. Decent speed, but not 20 SB worthy. Can’t hit him too high because of his OBP, isnt a terrific 3/4 guy and cant hit him too low to waste his ability to hit the ball. I really dont know. a 6 guy?
Either way his defense came around this year and he just needs a home in the lineup to take the next step.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Ervin's had two straight good years.
Does that mean we’re due for two straight bad ones?
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
Exactly! Ervin broke the pattern already.
A quick check on his career stats might’ve helped here, Phi. I don’t think you’re other points are particularly convincing either, but I guess there’s always got to be a devil’s advocate.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Oct 1, 2011 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions
And I share your concern on what this organization will do to Trout.
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
Lately it doesn't seem like anyone around here hates to be a downer
I know there are a lot of things the organization needs to fix, but the doom and gloom seems a bit much to me.
Anyway, Ervin’s consistency issues have nothing to do with the joy of watching a dominant pitcher no hit another team.
You’re right that Trumbo won’t win rookie of the year, but I don’t think that should diminish the good things he did. I am worried about him for next year, but he was surprisingly good in a year where we easily could have gotten nothing from the first base position.
Who cares that Trout’s arm sucks? That effect will be minimized by sticking him in left field.
Kendrick can hit all over the lineup, which is fine. Yeah, his OBP/plate discipline could be better, but the guy is a valuable player to have on the team. Who cares where he hits? Lineup order is over-rated.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Sep 29, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Welp
I care that people are calling Trout a “5 tool prospect” when is he simply not.
Trumbo had a good year, yeah.
Lineup order is incredibly important. You want your high OBP to bat as often as possible (leadoff, 2nd), your guys with high SLG to hit with runners in scoring position, those who tend to not strike out towards the top as well. There is formulas up the anus detailing who should hit where and why.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
Trout's
Arm isn’t awful, but it is average. You saying that his arm is awful and will not improve shows a lack of understanding in how players can develop. He just turned 20 years old and can most definitely improve something like arm strength in the offseason. Will he ever have a plus arm? Not likely, but it’s certainly possible to improve on an average arm. I also expect him to do things better defensively once he gets more comfortable. Trout looked really comfortable at the plate, but for whatever reason he looked really tentative in the field. It was almost like he was scared to death to make mistakes in the field. Once he gets over that fear, I expect him to become a dynamic player in the field as well as at the plate.
I’m not concerned about Trout at the plate because unlike guys like Trumbo and Bourjos, Trout has already and always shown plus plate discipline. It’s refreshing to see at least one of our young guys have some sort of approach and plan each time he walks up to the plate.
by Howie the Halo on Sep 29, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Negative
I once thought the same, however, if you check scouting and such its widely accepted that arm strength is what it is and never tends to really improve as you mature with age.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
As for lineup order
Unless you’re using the worst possible lineup order, or a facsimile of that, there’s very little difference between optimal lineup order and a reasonably good lineup order. You’re talking about tiny fractions of runs.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Id like to disagree.
Trumbo will win ROTY. I havent even heard Hellickson in any recent talks. Trouts arm is average, his range is superior to anyone elses. Erv has had two consistent good years, hopefully the trend is broken.
As far as HK47, I believe you are right. He has really matured defensively.
" With Haren bolstering the rotation, the Angels are set up beautifully for 2011"- Another East coast biased reporter
by Halos2011champs on Sep 29, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at Hellickson's numbers
posted in the AL East for a playoff team and let me know if you think Trumbo gets 1 first place vote by any of the east coast bias boner wielding peasants that have votes.
I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....
189 innings pitcher, 2.95 ERA, 1.15 WHIP.
I’d vote for him over Trumbo.
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
Look at his shitty peripherals though
I’d vote for Pineda, but I’m not sure anyone at ESPN could find Seattle on a giant-sized map of Washington state.
If word gets around that Trumbo played hurt for a month, that will help his chances.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Because he helped sabotage his team?
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
.231/.250/.462 last two weeks.
Hurt players should sit.
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
.230 / .238 / .500
Vernon Wells should sit. He drew one walk out of 101 PA in the month of September.
by Suboptimal on Sep 29, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Vernon falls under the "done players should sit" rule.
Vernon Wells 2011 Stats (.218/.248/.412) and 2010 road stats (.224/.299/.400). The front office shouldn't have been surprised.
100
Should change my screen name to Stuck with Premium.
by stuck in Romania on Oct 10, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
Trumbo playing hurt does absolutely nothing as far as ROY is concerned. Trumbo had a nice rookie year for the Angels, but Hellickson deserves ROY above Trumbo. If only Trumbo could have exhibited some degree of plate discipline, I think we’d be watching him win ROY.
by Howie the Halo on Sep 29, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it explains the drop-off in his prduction and provides a little "grittiness" factor.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
I vote to add you to the list of voters.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Sep 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
They found it last year to crown Felix....
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Sep 30, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I REALLY wish they would divide ROTY into two categories:
1 for pitching and 1 for hitting. It’s hard to pick just 1 guy, and it’s hard to compare who was better between a pitcher and hitter. Apples and oranges. My feeling is that a hitter contributes day after day, so they should get preference. A starting pitcher only has a chance to help the team every 5th day, and a reliever a few innings a week at most.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Oct 1, 2011 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions
This doesn't seem like much of a "downer," actually, Phi
Pretty much positive stuff in all categories. Even if he doesn’t win the “Rookie,” Trumbo’s year was pretty damn good and certainly exceded all of our expectations. Was there anyone here who predicted seriously that he would have close to 30 bombs after Kendry disappeared?
As for arm strength, I have seen several cases (including my own) of arm strength improving from 18-years-old to 25. Perhaps it’s an exception, but the right training program can help an athelete make adjustments which furnish increase abilities in a variety of areas. In my case, it went hand-in-hand with getting laid regularly. I think studies need to be done to examine that correlation (lol).
your arm strength getting stronger from "getting laid regularly" just tells me
at the tender age of 18 you figured out how great masturbation can be, and your right forearm benefitted greatly from the routine workouts. we’re all friends here, you can be honest.
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Sep 29, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn. Busted again.
And considering the massive size I have to deal with,
it’s no wonder my arm strength got so incredible.
by Raaddad on Sep 29, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We were in this thing until Waldo threw it away. That was game 159. A lot of other teams can’t say that, most other teams can’t say that. With the horrible off season, the worst trade that I can recall, the fact Morales was lost for another year, the worst catcher in the league & all the rooks we had to play I don’t how we did so well
BRING ON 2012!!!
2011, it's going to be a heck of year, or not
I don't see anyway that Hellickson doesn't win the ROY.
But it is nice to see the positives. I’ll start remembering those around December. Right now, I’m going to be bitter. No way to change it.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Especially after the way Tampa Bay came back and got into the playoffs.
Unfortunately, Trumbo faded down the stretch.
From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average
This friggin Rally Manatee guy....
I’ve seen him in person, and it’s about as exciting as a full ride scholarship to Oral Roberts University, but I sure like the cut of his jib.
P Bo + Williams as a back end starter = BIG HOPE!
Sometimes I wish Rex would be quiet
by gitchogritchoffmypetis on Oct 3, 2011 9:49 PM PDT reply actions
Unlike you
who are such a taut and sinewy specimen of man-meat that you just may cause Tim McCarver to forsake Mariano Rivera.
Trust the Deception
by Rally Manatee on Oct 4, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions






























