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The Best Way to get Rid of Wells...Trade Him for Someone Worse

Amazingly, as awful as Vernon Wells was this season, there were actually players who performed worse (not named Jeff Mathis). The one player who I believe could be traded for Vernon Wells, and actually significantly improve the Angels, is Adam Dunn.

First, let me preface. I watch the White Sox from time to time; however, I am definitely not an expert on their team. So, their payroll/prospects/philosophy, I really don't know. I am basing this trade on what I see on the Major League roster.

We'll start with contracts. Vernon Wells is owed 63 million dollars over the next three seasons, and will be 35 years old by 2015. Adam Dunn is owed 44 million over the next three seasons, and will be 34 years old by 2015. So, for this trade to work, the Angels would have to throw a sweetner Chicago's way. If it's money, 12-15 million. My ideal situation would be to throw in Morales. I really like him, and hope he comes back strong; however, it is a gamble. The Angels would still probably have to throw some cash in, but maybe could get bullpen help. I might be getting too greedy..but I digress..

So, the first logical question, is why would the White Sox make this move? Adam Dunn had an awful year. I think it's the worst season in over 100 years from an everyday player. He also received a large contract in the off-season, which has White Sox fans irate at his production. By August, Dunn became strictly a platoon player, and never started against left handers (somehow Wells continued to start against righties). They would be glad to get rid of Dunn. In return, they get Vernon Wells, who amazingly, hits pretty well somewhere other than Toronto. He hits well at US Cellular Field. He could take over center field for Alex Rios, who also had a worse season than Wells.

The next question, is if Dunn was so bad, how can he help the Angels? In my opinion, Dunn is not a declining player yet. He simply had a bad year. Well bad doesn't quite do it. He hit .159, slugged .277, but also managed to have an on base % of .292. I believe he will return to his career averages (bat speed did not seem to be an issue for him). Now over his career, Dunn has never been known as a contact hitter. To expect him to hit higher than around .265 or strike out a ton would be unfair. The bright side of Dunn, is that he can hit 40 home runs and draw over 100 walks in a season. Two areas the Angels lacked was power and guys who can get on base. He also does not have the drastic home/road splits that Wells has. Unfortunately, he does have pretty bad lefty/righty splits. The benefit here is that there are more right handed starters than left handed starters.

This trade allows for Mike Trout (the savior) to become the permanent left fielder. Bobby Abreu can be the 4th outfielder. Dunn becomes a power threat at DH in the middle of the Angels lineup, while providing a lefty bat in between Howie/Torii/Trumbo. Against lefties, Maicer can DH, helping him stay healthy throughout the year.

Of course, this would all be unnecessary if Wells would just opt out of his behemoth of a contract...but we all know he won't...but one can dream...

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How about we trade Trout for Rios

Sounds dumb, right? Well, to the White Sox, your trade proposal sounds even stupider.

by Rev Halofan on Sep 28, 2011 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, I can't pretend to speak for Chicago, but for the Angels...

This would mean that we traded away Juan Rivera, Mike Napoli AND Kendrys Morales PLUS threw in tens of millions of dollars for the right to pay Adam Dunn tens of million of dollars to play for us for three years.

So, yeah, I guess there IS a way to make the Vernon Wells deal look worse.

Against stupidity the very Gods themselves toil in vain.

by Stirrups on Sep 28, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Vernon Wells deal is already made

So the money is already being paid regardless. Personally I’d rather have Dunn over Wells…and not pin the off season hopes on Kendrys coming back again.

by MikeV7297 on Sep 28, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vernon is better than Dunn though

That’s why this deal makes no sense

"Its like when i’m right…i’m right… and when i’m wrong…i could have been right..so i’m still right cause i could have been wrong"-Chevy Clarke's Twitter

by ryanfea on Sep 30, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

Comparing Trout to Rios is in no way comparing Wells to Dunn

by MikeV7297 on Sep 28, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 years/30 million of 1B suck for 3 years/63 million of outfield suck

sounds dumb to the team getting the extra $33 million of suck.
As dumb or dumber that Trout for Rios sounds to us.

by Rev Halofan on Sep 28, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially when the Angels have already got the market on aging, declining OF/DH's locked up.

And a big clog on them too.

Yeah, let’s get Adam Dunn and block Trout/Bourjos/Whoever for even longer!

Light up that halo! RIP, Nick.

by Clutch on Sep 28, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the record

I don’t believe Adam Dunn is declining, just had an awful year.

The length of the contracts is the same, so it has nothing to do with blocking anyone…it would actually free up Trout in left field as stated in the post.

by MikeV7297 on Sep 28, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, but

Dunn is owed 44 mil, not 30. Hence the Angels would have to throw in some money or a player (Morales in this case). Both guys get a fresh start, and maybe the Sox want to take a chance on Kendrys coming back to form.

It is what it is. I’m a big believer in Dunn’s ability. The dude is country strong. And I also hate Vernon Wells. Regardless it was just an idea.

On a side note, Kendrys is one of my favorite Angels. I want him to come back and do well I just don’t think he will be the same player he was…I will gladly eat my words on that though if he becomes a stud again!!

by MikeV7297 on Sep 28, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

We would need to take on a different piss poor contract to trade wells

Such as
Zito for Wells or
Zanbrano for Wells.

Kasmir’s off the books So we really need to have an overpriced over the hill bloated and worthless pitcher to fill out our roster

by Bozo's1000son on Sep 28, 2011 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I can play too

Soriano for Wells! Crawford for Wells!

"That boy is our last hope" - Obi Wan Scioscia, as Francisco Rodriguez left for the Mets. "No, there is another" - Yoda Reagins.

by RallyMonkey5 on Sep 29, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got one!

Lackey for Wells!

Bieber Fever? No! I got Weaver Fever!!!!

by KB_24 on Sep 28, 2011 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

scary!

Should change my screen name to Stuck with Premium.

by stuck in Romania on Sep 29, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can we throw in Abreu too

and get Crawford? Let Torii DH and Crawford, Trout and Burjous can be the outfield.

by mustang6944 on Sep 30, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the part where wells goes away

just not the part where Adam Dunn comes here

"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black

by the king of CERA on Sep 29, 2011 1:21 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I really believe after this year...

Wells is THE Unmovable Contract. At least last year at this time Wells was at least believed to be somewhat of an offense threat and that his defense was stellar.

First year in Anaheim threw all of that out of the window. We’re stuck with him.

There is only 2 out fielders anyone would want from this team. And perhaps a 3rd, if the deal makes sense. I believe Reagins should be looking for a better solution with Abreu than Wells.

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

I blog about the Angels at First2Third.net

by Jay Cal on Sep 29, 2011 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I like the thought

And especially after these last two games, I would love nothing more than to have Wells simply be gone. He is forever a symbol of the worst decision made by a franchise with a rich history of making really bad decisions.

I almost posted a similar fanpost yesterday exploring all the bad contracts we could possibly swap for Wells. At the end of my tour of Cot’s, the best I could come up with was Dunn or Zito. In every scenario, we would have to throw in cash and the player we’d get back might be worse than Vernon. Many of them – Soriano, Crawford, Bay – are already left fielders, meaning Trout would still be blocked.

The money is spent. Unless some GM goes all Ninja and decides he wants to take a chance on the Wells rebound season, we might as well face the fact that we’re stuck with him and hope he bounces back just a little the next year or two. But I’m all for having Trout in the line up as much as possible. He could alternate between left, right and occasionally center, taking a day off every few days. Wells and Hunter could certainly use the frequent rest, without the ego hit of not being everyday players anymore. Essentially Mike can arrange a job share in the outfield similar to what he has in the infield. Everyone gets roughly the same plate appearances while keeping their legs fresh. Trout is Izzy in this scenario, but I would hope that at some point he steals the every day spot outright.

This of course leaves quite the logjam at first and DH. If the team goes all in and miraculously signs one of the BIG first basemen, they trade either Trumbo or Morales and let the one they keep fight for DH ab’s with Abreu and whichever old outfielder is getting a day off his feet. If they decide to skip on the expensive first basemen and pick up a starting pitcher instead (very plausible), you let Kendry, Trumbo, Abreu, Hunter and Wells fight for ab’s until someone pulls away from the pack. And no, I don’t think hitting all those pretty home runs this year means Trumbo should automatically be in the line-up every day. Until he becomes a more well-rounded hitter, he brings nothing more than any of those other guys.

Finally, I am not on the “dump Abreu” train. Yes he’s old and had his worst season. Which means we’d get nothing for him and save almost nothing as no team would want any of his contract. I think he’ll be a good guy to have around in what likely will be his last season. He might start once a week and pinch hit for whatever terrible catcher Mike will be favoring. He can even pinch run for Torii. Beyond that, he’ll be on the bench, hopefully passing along his wisdom and maybe even convincing Hatcher of a better way….

by dmhead on Sep 29, 2011 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

I like Wells and Abreu coming of the bench

Expensive, yes, but at least they don’t block anybody, it would be nice to have some power on the bench (besides Branyan, that is), they won’t be a total waste (ie., sending Wells away somewhere else and still paying for him, ala GMJ), they can cover for injuries, Bobby can retire a Halo, we have somebody (Ol’ Vern) to talk shit about all season (gotta keeep Phi, BC, Turks Teeth, and others happy),and there it is.

by Raaddad on Sep 29, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wells does not have the mental make-up to come off the bench as a part-timer / PH

Furthermore, I don’t believe Soth has the mental make-up to make that decision.

From Jeff Mathis' TOPPS card: "Jeff is a defensive catcher, but he can rake it when it counts." Jeff has a lifetime .199 MLB batting average

by mustard_man on Sep 30, 2011 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody in their right mind should want to dump Abreu.

He was already relegated to the bench pretty much toward the end of this season. He knows that is likely to be the case next season too. Then he’ll retire. As an every day player, he is a liability. But as a bench warmer, he may be the best in the league. To have a guy who can come in when needed and have a great chance of at least working a walk is very valuable. Plus, he could always find one last gasp of power. We would be smart to keep, just don’t start him.

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Oct 1, 2011 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a terrible idea.

Get Dunn from the ChiSox for Wells and about 30ish M. That way at least Trout isnt blocked.

I brought sexy back, but they only gave me store credit....

by PhiSlamma on Sep 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I really doubt Williams does that

He has to be hoping he bounces back more than the posters here.

He is affordable if he produces.

I'd like to DFA Reagins

by hauldog on Sep 29, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

As bad as Vernon was this season

his year looks 50x better than Dunn who was pitiful at best…I’d rather roll the dice on a Dunn comeback year than on Wells who looked instantly old in the outfield this year.

by Dr. Halo on Sep 29, 2011 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

While Dunn is a walks machine ...

he does have numerous full seasons sub-250 BA in the past. I wouldn’t touch him with a 10-foot pole.

Although, he was a 381 career OBP prior to 2011.

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Sep 30, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would much rather have Dunn than Wells

This year was a fluke for Dunn, not for Wells.

by TheAntiSox on Sep 29, 2011 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm indifferent

I feel my lack of opinion is just as valuable as your opinion.

"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon

by BruinHalo on Sep 30, 2011 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

If Wells stops moving his hands so much, he'll be fine.

It’s pretty clear to me that he jerks his hands up and back slightly before he swings through the zone, and this is what’s causing all the strike outs and pop ups. It’s almost like how they say sometimes a pitcher “reaches back” for just a little more power, but it can backfire. If he just minimizes that movement, he’ll bring his average up next season.

Are you reading this Mickey?

Trust the Deception

by Rally Manatee on Oct 1, 2011 2:07 AM PDT reply actions  

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