Tuesday Halolinks: Angels' Third Basemen, DiPoto Cautious With Hurlers
Wake me when they start playing catch Halolinks:
- The first Angels third baseman I remember is Ken McMullen, and taking a look at the B-Ref page for those 1971 California Angels (click the link to see how truly pathetic that offense was), McMullen led the team with 21 home runs! Western Front: A Haphazard History of Halos at the Hot Corner - Baseball Prospectus. The post runs through some of the players who occupied third base in Anahiem, plus points out the current warm body isn't doing too bad, "You know who I didn't expect to find ranked fourth? Alberto Callaspo. But there he is, ahead of Alex Rodriguez, Kevin Youkilis, Aramis Ramirez, Ryan Zimmerman, and every other third baseman alive."
- A couple years ago Ervin Santana made the list of most likely pitchers to be injured based on the amount of sliders he threw. Apparently sliders put the most stress on a pitcher's elbow and the frequency Santana threw the pitch was a concern to the club. And it still is; Santana not allowed to pitch in winter ball - angels.com. "Starter Ervin Santana recently asked the Angels for permission to pitch for the Licey Tigers of the Dominican Winter League, but they declined, general manager Jerry Dipoto confirmed." Within the article, DiPoto is also quoted as saying it wasn't just Santana who wouldn't be allowed to pitch in winter ball, but any of the Halo pitchers. He feels it's bad for a pitcher to ramp up in winter ball and then take a break prior to ramp up again in spring training.
- It wouldn't be the off-season without a list of baseball movies: The Lineup Card: 10 Favorite Baseball Movies of All-Time - Baseball Prospectus
- Was anyone else surprised by Colon's moderate success with the Yankees last season? Colon Continues Comeback In Oakland - FanGraphs Baseball. "Despite scoffs from most of the baseball world when the signing was announced, he was largely (no pun intended) effective in New York, posting a 3.83 FIP, 3.57 xFIP, and 3.60 SIERA." This could be a cheap and effective signing for Oakland. It at least fills in a spot in their rotation.
- If the Rangers sign Prince Fielder, in my mind they become the favorites in the A.L. West: Dreaming About Prince in Texas - FanGraphs Baseball. "The addition of his bat to the Rangers’ lineup would transform the second-best offense from 2011 (ranked by team wOBA) into a bona fide juggernaut next season."
- It's funny when the Yankees claim they don't have any money: Yankees might bring back Hideki Matsui - CBSSports.com. They say they only have one or two million to spend on a DH and Matsui might be that guy, "Heyman reports there has been some contact between Matsui's representatives and his former ballclub."
- Cool interview: An interview with Robert Creamer - Baseball: Past and Present. "I first became intensely aware of big league baseball in the summer of 1931, when I was nine. My big brother, who was six years older than I, took me to my first major league game, or games — it was a doubleheader between the old New York Giants and the old Brooklyn Dodgers in the old Polo Grounds on the banks of the Harlem River in New York, below the steep hillside known as Coogan’s Bluff."
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My favorite player used to be Ken McMullen (even when he played for the Dodgers).
He had a knack for late-inning dramatics, often launching a home run in the 9th. But by no way was he the greatest Angels third baseman. Troy Glaus gets my vote.
A wise man does not need advice and a fool won't take it.
Hard choice, really.
Glaus got my vote, but Figgy was better defensively and I grew up watching DeCinces.
Glaus because he was my grandfather's favorite
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
Man, if Callaspo can just get his slugging and .ISO back to 2009 levels... I'd b over the moon with his performance at 3B
Considering he had a wrist injury in 2010 (I don’t know if that affected him or not in 2011), Callaspo hitting with more doubles power is something that if happens, would go a long way to making us a pretty solid offensive team.
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jan 17, 2012 9:21 AM PST reply actions
starting to finally warm up to Callaspo at 3rd base
that 4 WAR is just dandy. Now if he does get back to doubles power (like you said), Trumbo is going to have a hard time finding a spot to play in this lineup.
samesies
"You realize that Ive been posting on AN since 07 on this name and I am one of the most rec'ed posters there right?" - Some tool named Designatedforassignment from Athletics Nation
by 2pintsofbooze on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
In unrelated news
I blew right by post 1000.
Also Chone was awesome.
Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.
definitely one of the best BP articles on the Angels
I’d have to go with Glaus because of the 2002 post season.
First one I remember was Aurelio.
My favorites were DeCinces (two 3 HR games in a week in 1982) and Lansford (given away.
We've had some terrible luck developing 3Bs...
…possibly the worst position historically on the Angels?
I see red people
We have yet to see Mark Trumbo wield a glove at 3B for the Angels
yet.
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
by highlandhalo on Jan 17, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Brewster's Millions?!? Over Major League?
Glaus – because 2002 reigns supreme.
Jeff Mathis (Pseudonym Lyle Spencer) is History... Zang!
by Halo Hurricane on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST reply actions
Carney had a great glove and a good bat - he got my vote
Butch Hobson sucked and might give Wood a run for his money at the other end of the spectrum.
I love this team.
Downing, I saw both play and no way was Hobson worse than Dick Wood
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
by highlandhalo on Jan 17, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
Edgardo Alphonso
Man, that guy was the ghostest. Even when he was on the team it was hard to remember he was on the team.
I love this team, I love this blog, I will never doubt Arte again and I can't wait to see what happens this year. That is all.
by gitchogritchoffmypetis on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM PST reply actions
Doug DeCinces
With acknowledgement to Troy, Carney and Chone who filled the position admirably. DeCinces was IMHO the first complete 3rd bagger we had, and nobody we’ve had since, has been as good as he was, for as long as he did for us.
For some reason, I always think of Gary Gaetti...
I just looked up his numbers and he was just terrible for us… terrible…
by WhatShouldIThrowToday? on Jan 17, 2012 5:27 PM PST reply actions
He definitely had the best teeth of all Angels third basemen
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
by highlandhalo on Jan 17, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Shout out to Dave Chalk
but yeh Glaus then DeCinces then Figgy and the day we traded Lansford was a wretched damned day.
I simply can't vote
I just know too much about all of these guys …. But I wanna go with Desmond.
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
by highlandhalo on Jan 17, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Dave Chalk was really good in a bad era
But I remember him more as an SS than a 3B. Maybe my memory is getting foggy.
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
by highlandhalo on Jan 17, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
Is it just me or does everything Jerry Dipoto does just make sense?
Holy shite. I year for both Aybar and Callaspo. Master strokes.
Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.
The team has a definite history of giving up on young 3Bmen
Schaal, Rodriguez, Lansford, and Rance Mulliniks (who was a SS for us, 3B & DH after) basically played in Angel diapers, then produced real value after they left (none of them was older than 25).
Howell was better than he was ever given credit for, then they traded him for some loser and let him go hit in Japan. D-Mac was hurt, and Brandon Wood was AAAA. It’s a bit of a snake-bitten position
Jerome Williams played in winterball this offseason...
Threw great for a few weeks down in Chavezlandia… Just 36 innings but a 5-0 w/ 1.00 ERA.
"Yoy! And double Yoy!"
by Captain Thailand on Jan 17, 2012 9:44 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Glaus wins, of course, but
it all hinges on ONE at bat for DeCinces—when he stranded the winning run at third base in the bottom of the 9th, Game 5 in 1986. Just a sac fly and this might be an entirely different conversation.
Best Ever Angels' 3rd baseman season?
I think DeCinces 1982 was the best all-arond season for any Angles’ 3rd baseman. He was 3rd in ‘82 AL MVP voting. Glaus’ 2000 season is a close 2nd best, and 3rd best would probaby be either Figgins 2007 or Glaus again in 2001.
First Angels Game: 09-04-1969

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