Oliver wanted to come back
So we're pretty good friends with Darren Oliver and he came over for dinner tonight and told me the Angels tried trading Takahashi and signing him. He really wanted to come back but nobody would take Takahashi.
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Reagins strikes again!
"Baseball is beautiful. It is the only sport in which you can fail 70% of the time and still be considered the greatest player"
by Halos2011champs on Jan 21, 2012 6:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Hahaha
I told him the same thing about Reagins and he said he didn’t like any of the moves Reagin did
But guys,
"I think I already made a huge splash with Takahashi." -TR
"Yoy! And double Yoy!"
by Captain Thailand on Jan 21, 2012 7:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This better be a January Fools joke.
Your Angels: Telling Pythagoras to go to hell since 2004.
by sheisalovelyladyandmyapologiestoher on Jan 21, 2012 7:41 PM PST reply actions
Talk about inside information...
Thanks for this fanshot!
by Rock Island Line on Jan 21, 2012 7:44 PM PST reply actions
im pretty sure he has relatives in HB, as well.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Jan 22, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
haha "class act"
“the league” most hilarious show on tv predicted this quite well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OjF_At3BKQ
by CallMeEckstein on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
My, how the Angels' front office has changed
Under the old regime, there is no way in hell a player would know that the front office was trying to move a current player in order to sign the free agent player. Nothing was ever spoken of outside of the front office.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" ~Groucho Marx
Oliver wasn’t a FA at the time and Reigans was still GM at the time. But still surprised Oliver would know about the person he was close to getting traded for as ususally that isn’t known and the players involved in a trade are usually surprised themselves.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 21, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
If this is the case, and Oliver really wanted to be part of the team
He would have made it happen, even without the Takahashi trade. Oliver wouldn’t have been the first guy to sing for less in the past six months.
Okay. That makes sense.
You really talked to him. As in for a long, deep sounding, discussion.
Next time you see him. Tell him a fan from Hawaii wishes him luck in the Great White North.
We actually know a few ballplayers.
Teixeira lived in our neighborhood before he signed with the Yankees and moved (I even have an autographed Tex jersey!), Josh Hamilton is my nextdoor neighbor I’ve met him a couple times, Vernon actually lives out here too, nice guy just wish he wasn’t on the Angels. We’re friends with Verlander too, we have our conenctions
he must all the players he mentioned do.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 21, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
leave some chalk lines on the side of your yard
see if Josh sniffs them up.
by Rev Halofan on Jan 21, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Southlake
Morales, I live here as well….. Pretty big area, lot of homes. Vernon and Josh’ though definitely stand out.
RIP NA
Bring Matt Kemp to the Angels
and thanks for sharing....always hesitated sharing info like this.
RIP NA
Bring Matt Kemp to the Angels
you two get together
and TEE=PEE Torii Hunter’s house for kicks, take pictures.
by Rev Halofan on Jan 21, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
roids and hookers
our only hope is that wife catcehs him cheating and cuts off his balls
or
he does roids, gets tested and suspended
or
he does roids and beats the test and hits 50 HRs
This is win/win and sounds like a plot from a cheesy 80s John Hughes ripoff, ’cept da roids were legal back then.
by Rev Halofan on Jan 21, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'm out here too!
Fort Worth. Us Angels fans should get together and take over the ballpark!
Baseball is a funny game...
by Halosfan777 on Jan 21, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
take pics when you do!!
"We are the JeDi, the ultimate power in the universe. We will do as we choose. And we will destroy any who dare stand in our way."
So sick of all the Rangers bandwagon
I swear to god first 3 years at my school and not a whisper of the Rangers. They finally go to the WS and all of the sudden everyone has new Ranger merch
This is so true.
I absolutely cannot stand the Rangers bandwagon. All DFW sports are like this though. You don’t see any Mavs fans until they make the playoffs. Rangers fans didn’t even exist until they made it to the WS either. It’s unbelievable.
Baseball is a funny game...
by Halosfan777 on Jan 22, 2012 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
exactly
I live in San Antonio and the only time I ever see ranger gear is during baseball season and its scattered. Now they make it to the WS everyone carries their gear
Are you sure he was safe? It looked like an out to the entire statium. Well bad call Blue.
by Alavel on Jan 22, 2012 12:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I am a bit confused here.
When did he want to come back? This year he was a free agent, right? So no need for a trade.
Was it last year? Is that when we signed Hawk? Did we sign and want to trade him right away?
In the long run men hit only what they aim at. Therefore, though they should fail immediately, they had better aim at something high.
Walden
by matthiasstephan on Jan 22, 2012 4:37 AM PST reply actions
It seemed clear to me...
He wanted to come back this offseason but the angels felt they would have to trade a reliever to make room for him since they didn’t want 3 leftys in the bullpen. They tried to trade takahashi to make room but no one wanted him
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 22, 2012 8:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Why do I feel like this Bullshit with a capital B?
First off, if you are really friends with ballplayers then I doubt they want you sharing this kind of personal info all over the internet. I got a feeling you heard this through the grapevine OR you are a 15 year old kid…which if so, that cool, just dont get into trouble.
Second, so they only would agree to sign DO if somebody took on Taki’s salary? Otherwise, it still doesn’t make sense. I can envision an Angels bullpen with both Taki and DO, doesn’t seem to make sense that it was either one or the other…UNLESS it was stipulated by dumping Taki’s salary. Which seems like chump-change in regards to what the FO has already done this year.
Also, no one wanted Taki? Really. That seems unlikely unless we were asking for too much or demanding they take his entire salary.
Furthermore, Suzan, I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them smoke marijuana cigarettes.
"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)
by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Jan 22, 2012 7:54 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
They needed someone to eat Takahashi's entire salary
The Angels wouldn’t have had enough money to sign Darren unless Tak’s salary was gone
And it was THAT hard to find a team to make a $4 million, one year commitment
to a guy who posted a 3.44 ERA?
This is a sig.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 22, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
There are far worse relievers
He could have been better but at about $4 million, he’s not exactly a drag on the team.
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jan 23, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
I must be missing something.
Everyone besides BHM is taking this hook line and sinker.
this is the internet.. where is the cynicism?
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
I guess its a pretty believable story
And why would someone make it up, its not exciting, doesn’t help the team one bit (or put down an opponent), and it is really not a story except to us hardcore angels fans.
It doesnt fit the mold of a fabricated story.
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 22, 2012 8:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Bro
Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.
by Commander_Nate on Jan 22, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
mo vaughn
Is my cousin’s husband little brothers step dad.. he came over to clean our pool and told us the angels offered him a contract.
me and the wonder dog got high!
by YOUknowulovetheIE on Jan 22, 2012 9:57 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm kind of surprised that this fanshot wasn't deleted, let alone put on the front page.
It smacks of utter bullshit (to borrow a term from BHM above), and it seems irresponsible for a major Halos site to feature a story from a questionable source about the team wanting to get rid of a pitcher who figures to be a pretty important piece of the bullpen in the upcoming season.
Winning doesn't matter. -Lyle
Can you do us one better?
And take a picture of him sitting at your computer, as you lean over his shoulder, scrolling through the comments section of this story?
This is a sig.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 22, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I will stipulate that you know him
However, the story, as told, is more than a little weird:
°Reagins resigned as GM of the Angels September 29. Oliver was under contract to the Rangers through the end of the World Series, a full month later.
Any conversation between a player under contract and a GM of another team, without the consent of the team holding the contract, is tampering.
If what Oliver is stating what you’re claiming he said—that Reagins was going to sign him for 2012 but couldn’t move Takahashi to do it—then he just said that Reagins committed a legal violation of Oliver’s contract with the Rangers.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" ~Groucho Marx
by George Kaplan on Jan 22, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
I was about to say, it was moraleshomers that was posting stuff about reagins
he seems confused about when this was supposed to have happened.
by Balls and Strikes on Jan 22, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Too many Morales to keep track
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" ~Groucho Marx
by George Kaplan on Jan 22, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
You mean too many Kendry's...
12/8/11!!! What a day!
by stuck in Romania on Jan 22, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
yeah... something like that... Kendries'ss
12/8/11!!! What a day!
by stuck in Romania on Jan 24, 2012 7:20 AM PST up reply actions
I was. I was stating how the timeline didn’t seem to make a ton of sense.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 22, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Also, we're talking about a guy who said he wanted to play for a contender or retire close to home.
And now he plays for Toronto.
Maybe it’s not Morales8 we should be questioning, rather DO!
Oh, wow. I just blew my mind.
Winning doesn't matter. -Lyle
That's a good point
I didn’t really talk to him about why he picked Toronto. It doesn’t sound like Texas pushed too hard for him though
They didn't push at all
He stated he never heard from the Rangers.
As to whether or not he’d sign with the Angels, IF it was about getting Takahashi traded first, since Oliver signed with Toronto for essentially what Takahashi is going to make in 2012, then if the Angels had to eat half Takahashi’s salary to trade him, that would have effectively made Oliver a $6M LOOGY (no Steve Austin jokes, please). That isn’t very cost-effective.
I am sure he had personal reasons to want to switch teams to the Rangers two years ago, but doors often close behind us when we make those decisions. That seems to be the case here, and frankly, it is debatable as to whether or not the Angels would have paid as much as $4M for a season of Oliver at age 41.
As to “why Toronto?”, Oliver was apparently scarred by the near-loss of money due to the ponzi fraud of Robert Stanford a few years ago. He said at the time he lost nothing, but it is possible that the $42M gross earnings over his career now aren’t “enough” for him. That kind of near-miss can play with the heads of folks when it comes to assessing their personal net worth. Any financial offer is therefore worthy of consideration.
Another theory is that his kids are now teenagers and it is great to have an excuse to be in another country while their hormones make them barely controllable. I know there were days I would have welcomed that excuse to give to the wife.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" ~Groucho Marx
by George Kaplan on Jan 22, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
this story
Is pointless..just like most of my comments on HH
me and the wonder dog got high!
by YOUknowulovetheIE on Jan 22, 2012 11:19 AM PST via mobile reply actions
The reason this is on the front page
is because Morales8 checks out.
That is all I am authorized to say but the guy is no BS.
In some ways, that's worse.
What if Taka reads this? I want my relievers to have confidence in the team for which they’re pitching.
Yeah, I know, professional athletes, part of the game, etc. but come on, this is Perez Hilton stuff.
Winning doesn't matter. -Lyle
don't ya think Hawk realizes he wasn't lusted for?
"We are the JeDi, the ultimate power in the universe. We will do as we choose. And we will destroy any who dare stand in our way."
short memory....it's what we've been calling Takahashi
"We are the JeDi, the ultimate power in the universe. We will do as we choose. And we will destroy any who dare stand in our way."
Ah, I did not know that.
Plus, with LaTroy in the fold, I was confused.
But, to your point, no, I don’t think he would be necessarily informed of the club’s decision to shop him around. I mean, this is the first any of us are hearing about it and we’re only privy to it because a member of HH is friends with DO, who may not have gotten the best information himself. There are way too many “what-ifs” in this situation for it to be worthy of front page, IMHO.
I’m also not as down on Taka as others seem to be, so I have my own bias to admit.
Winning doesn't matter. -Lyle
that too. Depends on the day and our moods
"We are the JeDi, the ultimate power in the universe. We will do as we choose. And we will destroy any who dare stand in our way."
This is only the beginning!
I’m gonna try and get as much inside info as I can. I’m like Ken Rosenthal but 2 feet taller
just please respect their privacy-even tell him about HH and invite him aboard
ask yourself, “if this was me, would I want the world to know”
I love gossip as much as anyone, probably more, but we don’t want HH being turned into the TMZ of the hAlo world.
"We are the JeDi, the ultimate power in the universe. We will do as we choose. And we will destroy any who dare stand in our way."
I agree. Maybe talk them into checking out the site (which I think many already do which is why you should be careful) maybe even contribute.
(Victor Rojas also is around once in a while).
by MoralesHomers on Jan 22, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
oh and get them to sign a release and have their agent sign off on a ten percent kickback
and have their insurance company take a rider on every time their name is used and wash that cut and bandage it up and don’t rub your eye and don’t pick your nose and say your prayers and tithe tithe tithe tithe tithe and there is a sale at Mervyn’s let’s get up early and beat the crowd there.
Forget that noise – this is the internet.
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
I will take TMZ’s ratings and hit count any day of the week – when was the last time TMZ printed a retraction?
(NY TIMES prints about three a week, it is establishment journalism that cannot catch up to the new age of fact reporting).
I acquiesce, Rev Harvey Halofan
bring on the smut!!!
"We are the JeDi, the ultimate power in the universe. We will do as we choose. And we will destroy any who dare stand in our way."
You're 5 feet tall?!?
I know that Rosenthal keeps his office in the hollow tree where the Keebler cookies are made.
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" ~Groucho Marx
by George Kaplan on Jan 22, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
When Tim Salmon was rookie
He rented a friend of mine’s house in Brea, it was pretty awesome. Got some signed shwag out of it. Talk about a class act.
by Say Halo to Pujols on Jan 22, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions
Secretary: "Mr. Dipoto it's Daren Oliver again, what should I tell him this time?"
“tell him I’m in a meeting, no wait, tell him I couldn’t move enough cap, I couldn’t move takahashi, just get rid of him” – J.D.
"I can do everything through Him who gives me strength."
by Monk e on Jan 22, 2012 5:06 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Maybe Oliver just really didnt like Taka
When I flip a coin I dont say heads or tails, I say Halos or Spurs
Maybe this is because Oliver gets his info from his agent.
Does Oliver act as his own agent? If not then this info is coming to Oliver from his agent and sounds fairly correct.
CONGER, CONGER, CONGER !!!
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