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^^ this - exactly ^^

"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." - Annie Savoy

by raskul on Jan 22, 2012 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

do you think he will go in tv?

Forget Tebow
Andy Lee is the second coming of Jesus
-ME

by DAD OF VLAD on Jan 22, 2012 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

No

I think he’ll go into coaching somewhere

"I was at a Del Taco, on the phone with Alex Anthopoulos, When the Drugs began to take hold…"
-- No Bologna Polonia

by Seik1177 on Jan 22, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I can see that, especially at the high school or college level.

And if he can pass on even half his passion and hussle to the players, he’ll be a great one.

by blithescribe on Jan 22, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

So long buddy

I loved the guy’s passion, but was I the only one who never warmed to him as the “little engine that could/fan favorite?” like everyone else?

Honestly, I think that part of it was just that he sort of became the face of the bandwagoners…in national broadcasts, or even Letterman’s Top 10 after the W.S. win, he was just the go-to guy, and it always seemed like the shortest term Angels fans were the ones who loved him the most.

Oh well, enjoy retirement, little guy.

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 22, 2012 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Here's the part that I think most calculators are finally going to contend with concerning Eck:

I am going to call it “The X Factor”.

At some point in the very near future all MLB stadiums will have full field tracking for every position player on every pitch, and for the first time ever there will be the possibility of defensible metrics for range. But there will still be human biases in the application of this technology, and one of them will be how to spot that place on the field where the fielder has begun their travel towards a batted ball.

For a guy like Hunter this is rather easy. He is placed on a spot in the outfield and he stands there, stationary, until the ball is struck and THEN he reacts. Let the measurements begin.

But for a guy like Eck, who knew that his arm was weak and his range was short, he had a habit of reading the cacher for pitch selection and location, and would wait until the pitcher released the ball and he would start to break to the probable hit location BEFORE the ball reached the batter. It was pretty common to see Eckstein already moving to his left before a ball was hit up the middle, allowing him to snag a grounder that he otherwise would have failed to field.

Now the computer programmer for “Field F/X” (or whatever they are gonna call the system) has to make a choice. Does he program the computer to mark the actual location of each fielder on the field of play when the pitcher goes into his windup, or does he mark the actual location at the moment a batted ball is struck? The difference between these two points on the field is what I call “The X Factor”. The Field F/X people must declare whether or not their programming includes “The X Factor”, or their data will be suspect.

And that is how smart little players like Eckstein will have an impact on every sabremetrician, and every future baseball player, from that point on out until the end of time. Just like in his playing days, he finds a way to make himself useful when it counts.

Dear Texas: "One, two...........THREE!" The next number IS THREE!!!

by Stirrups on Jan 22, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That's all well and good

wasn’t say I didn’t like the guy.

I liked him as much as any Angel…but he was just another guy on the team to me.

This is a sig.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Jan 22, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Which, in and of itself, an amazing thing.

Considering how far he had to go to become a peer on a team with the likes of Glaus, Anderson, Salmon, Percival, Sheilds, Erstad, Molina, Lackey, et al.

Dear Texas: "One, two...........THREE!" The next number IS THREE!!!

by Stirrups on Jan 22, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a long-time Angel fan (and was back then too) and I loved him

I just like rooting for underdogs. I like seeing guys who hustle. He had quite a few endearing qualities like that.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Jan 23, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Scrappy Doo has been cancelled?

Bummer

Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.

by NathanielS on Jan 22, 2012 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

My all time favorite player

Loved his hustle and determination

by tkemp on Jan 22, 2012 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

I'll always remember

his grand slams in ’02

by Morales8 on Jan 22, 2012 1:04 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Still remember where I was

when he hit the second one against Toronto. I walked into a room, saw the grand slam and thought i was watching a replay

by Angels22 on Jan 22, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

"He's done it again!!"

"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."

by AlanFalcon on Jan 22, 2012 3:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Or, more accurately...

“That one is OUTTAHERE! Walk-off grand slam and the Angels come away with a victory as Eckstein has done it back-to-back games with a grand slam!”

"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."

by AlanFalcon on Jan 22, 2012 3:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hire Eck to replace the Rally Monkey

When I'm not at the stadium, I'd rather be watching my Halos back in Costa Rica!

by Dono Romantico on Jan 22, 2012 1:12 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

The runner goes, it's a pitch-out

Eckstein swings and fouls it off… WTF???? He fouled off a pitch-out? Only time I ever saw it done was by Eckstein in that magical 2002 season. A heck of a memory for me, thank you David Eckstein, enoy retirement.

by MiHaloFan on Jan 22, 2012 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Hat tip to the LA times:

Opening game of the division series against the New York Yankees, fifth inning, Angels trailing, 3-1, everyone wondering if the new kids were already cracking.

With Adam Kennedy running from first base and David Eckstein batting, the Yankees pitched out and should have easily nailed Kennedy.

Except Eckstein leaned out across the plate and fouled off the pitchout.

We’ll repeat that for the hard of believing.

He fouled off the pitchout.

Roger Clemens stared at home plate in disbelief. Who knows how many scouts and future playoff opponents were doing the same thing?

(http://articles.latimes.com/2002/oct/29/sports/sp-plaschke29)

"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."

by AlanFalcon on Jan 22, 2012 3:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you

I tried looking for this aticle, to avail.

by MiHaloFan on Jan 22, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

favorite angel ever

love ya eck!

LIGHT UP THE HALO

by nselbe7 on Jan 22, 2012 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

Mr. Burns says "Ecksssselent"

I love how Erstad and Eckstein were on the same team. They were cut from the same cloth.

by Doctor Wu on Jan 22, 2012 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Absolutely.

"It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before."

by AlanFalcon on Jan 22, 2012 3:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Gotta disagree with Caseys KOD-

Been a Halo fan for 35 years, and I always liked the guy a lot. Good article with actual analysis on Viva Los Birdos today, about his value to the 06 Cards. Dammed good player. Beside, being 5-7 1/2 myself, always liked seeing a normal size person play the game. Good luck, X-man.

by Jimatkins on Jan 22, 2012 1:44 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

When I a kid

I got hit in the chest by an eckstein foul ball on the club level.

Looked at the thing as it was coming like a deer in the headlights. A friend of mine grabbed it and still has it.

"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black

by the king of CERA on Jan 22, 2012 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

LOL..

I got hit in the chest by an Eckstein hit ball, but I wasn’t a kid.

Was out by the left field foul pole and was doing my usual watching the pitchers during BP. All of a sudden, whoosh, I got hit on the side of my right boob, and the ball BOUNCED off and went back on the field.. I ended up in first aid, and spent the game with an ice pack on my chest. Had stripes from the stitches for about 3 days afterwards.

And SOMEONE ELSE got the damn ball!!!!

by pattimelt on Jan 22, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

but

Mel still got the boob, right?

by Rev Halofan on Jan 22, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

HBP 27 times in 2002, That right there is the HEART of a Champion!

David owned the plate, pissed off the pitchers, got plunked for the team, took the pain and base and Title for that matter. I think Dipoto should bring him back to the Angel’s family immediately.

"I can do everything through Him who gives me strength."

by Monk e on Jan 22, 2012 2:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Favorite Eckstein moment...

2002 Playoffs (I think).
Hit and run was called, and it was a pitchout. The baserunner would have been dead, except that Eckstein leaned WAYYYY out over the plate, and managed to get a piece of the pitch and foul it off.

I’ve never seen anything like that, before or since.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Jan 22, 2012 2:37 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Ken Rosenthal says that Eckstien is not offically retiring that if “the opportunity were to present itself, he would consider it.” His agent said that.

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Jan 22, 2012 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

yep

just saw that. hope he finds that oppritunity

"id take 5th Dimention Wormhole Rivera over Wells any day of the week"
-clover_black

by the king of CERA on Jan 22, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I love you Eck

I will never forget you and everything you did to win us a World Series.

by waters96 on Jan 22, 2012 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

PSYCHE!

He isn’t really retiring apparently:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/eckstein-not-officially-retiring.html

I have lots of secret weapons! -- Voodoo

by WasianCU on Jan 22, 2012 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Thought he was already retired.

Weird.

What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.

by clover_black on Jan 22, 2012 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

He'll be a great coach/inspirer

Also will go down in history (so far) as the only Angels shortstop to win a WS ring. Those lollipop throws got us a BIG flag, thanks Eck!!

Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.

by highlandhalo on Jan 22, 2012 4:53 PM PST reply actions  

Loved Eck

Given his size, he appealed to a lot of us because he really made it seem like any of us could suit up and contribute (of course we can’t). And while he wasn’t the most gifted athlete, a lot of people could learn from him that you always run out (hard) every pop-up and ground ball because, hey, you never know. And like Glaus, Eck showed up to the playoffs, unlike a lot of ‘better’ players have done since.

by Theren86n02 on Jan 22, 2012 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

they need

An eckstein appreciation night this year..

me and the wonder dog got high!

by YOUknowulovetheIE on Jan 22, 2012 8:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

He will be missed.

Not many still playing from the ’02 team, are there?

"Grantland Rice, the great sportswriter, once said 'It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.'
Well, Grantland Rice can go to hell as far as I am concerned." - Gene Autry

by Angelsfan015 on Jan 22, 2012 9:26 PM PST reply actions  

Kennedy and J Molina are still active

Krod’s the only one who still rates as an above average player though.

by GoAngels! on Jan 23, 2012 3:41 AM PST reply actions  

He still pumps me up

when I see footage of him playing on MLBN. His contributions were not only great for the Angels, but he made all of baseball as a sport better. He’s a rare breed. Thanks Eck!

Where were you on December 8th, 2011 - Pujols Day?

by Rally Manatee on Jan 23, 2012 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

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