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Thursday Halolinks: Trumbo and Morales Still Question Marks, Marks Are A Question

And when he does, you'll see.

You'll have to wait for your answers edition of Halolinks:

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  • Since the only questions the Angels have entering spring training is how Trumbo and Morales are going to figure into the plans of manager Mike Scioscia, we should probably get used to daily updates as to how each play is progressing in their own separate "developments". Those plans will rely on the health of Morales' leg and the athleticism of Trumbo to learn another position. This post: Top position battles to watch in spring training - FOX Sports on MSN adds Wells and Abreu to the mix, but really, Wells is making too much for the Angel to not play him, while Abreu might become a non-factor if both Trumbo and Morales do well. "Angels: Mark Trumbo vs. Kendrys Morales vs. Bobby Abreu vs. Vernon Wells. Trumbo (29 HR, 87 RBI) will try to play third. Morales (34, 108 in ’09) will try to be a DH, at the very least, after the halting recovery from his infamous leg injury. Abreu (.353 OBP) may be relegated to DH duty, too, given a crowded outfield that includes the underperforming Wells (.218, 25, 66). " Abreu played just 28 in the outfield last season (his lowest total since his rookie season in 1996), so considering him an outfielder might be a pretty big stretch. "Translation: The situation is ripe for someone to be traded for a pitcher."
  • This post runs down the four scenarios for Trumbo and Morales: Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim have to wait and see with Mark Trumbo, Kendrys Morales - angels.com. "With 19 days left until the first reporting date, here's a look at what their options can be in each circumstance (barring trades, of course)." Of the four possible outcomes, my feeling is Trumbo will not be able to transition to third base, and Morales will start the season on the disabled list. Yeah, pessimistic on both counts, but it has been over a year and a half since Morales has faced MLB pitchers in game situations. I would think it's going to take more than the month worth of spring training games to get back into game shape. Trumbo on the other hand didn't show much promise when tested at the hot corner last year in Venezuela. Playing just 2 games at third base, Trumbo committed 4 errors (one throwing, 3 fielding) and the experiment was forgotten. In this LA Times article from February of last year, Trumbo had this to say about moving across the infield, "I was good at balls hit right at me, but range was an issue. It would take a lot of work to become adequate at third base right now." Considering that he had never played one game at third during his entire minor league career, a successful switch now is highly unlikely.
  • Angels’ big moves create excitement, unease for young players - The Orange County Register
    With spring training still a couple weeks away, none (Conger, Trumbo and Walden) have met new GM Jerry Dipoto yet and only know him through what they have read. Perhaps more unsettling, none really know how Dipoto or the new braintrust he has surrounded himself with evaluate – or value – them.
  • I have to give credit when credit is due...this is the second day in-a-row Mark Saxon has written a tidbit of fact that I found somewhat interesting: Angels vs. Rangers: Bullpens - ESPN Los Angeles. "Whose bullpen would you rather have? The Angels had a surprising edge in 2011, with their relievers putting up a 3.52 ERA, second in the American League to the New York Yankees. Texas relievers had a 4.11 ERA, near the bottom of the league, but they also blew six fewer saves than the Angels." I was unaware the Angel bullpen was one of the strongest in the A.L. last season. Going just by perception, it appeared to be one of the weaker. Boy, was I wrong. With the jettison of Rodney and the addition of Hawkins (assuming he continues to see his late career success), the bullpen might not be as fragile as I had thought.
  • I'm not too sure what to think about this post: Don’t Know What You’ve Got Until He’s Gone - Bugs & Cranks. "With Pujols now on-board, these fans find themselves in uncharted territory: they are now in possession of the most desirable Angels’ jersey, minus one somewhat amendable flaw. So what are they to do? Is there reason to shell out $283.99 on a jersey they (sort of) already own?" It seems this author has visited Halos Heaven before.
  • Brewers To Accommodate Fans With Peanut Allergies - WISC Madison. "Anyone who's sung "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" knows that peanuts and Cracker Jack are forever linked with baseball. But for fans with peanut allergies, a ballpark experience can be tough to navigate. That's a point that local sixth-grader Mathew Trotier made in a letter last month to the Milwaukee Brewers. In response, the team said this week it will set aside a peanut-controlled area for three home games next season." I'm deathly allergic to pop-ups. Do you think the Angels will accommodate me by not playing Vernon Wells?
  • Brandon Wood? Russ Canzler, Dan Johnson, and the Quad-A Label - FanGraphs Baseball. "As Kevin Goldstein pointed out earlier this winter, there are some convincing reasons to believe that Quad-A players do exist. Some players may have the tools necessary to destroy Triple-A pitching, but due to their skill sets — poor defenders, unathletic, slow swings — they have a difficult time succeeding in the majors."
  • The Jays Begin Their Courting of Bloggers - Drunk Jays Fans. "And he was curious, asking me about an answer I gave on the Fan590 a few weeks back, saying that I wasn't particularly interested in access anyway. I told him that partly it's because I didn't want to feel uncomfortable being an online dick about certain personalities on the club-- y'know, either with over-the-top, inevitably-foul-mouthed criticism, or in posting "Who gives a fuck?" videos, or "Brett 40-Hands" pictures. It's an old blogger's saw that part of the reason our medium was able to take hold as it did is because we offered an unvarnished opinion on the clubs we followed, without being clouded by the privilege of access or the necessity of maintaining professional relationships with players and club officials." I'm not too worried about running into players who I might have written some negative shit about. It hink they're pretty much used to having things like that written about them. On the other hand, I am quite nervous about running into the Marks (Whicker and Saxon). They've gone through their careers, prior to the internet and Halos Heaven, writing whatever they want and not being questioned on it. If I ever have access to the Angels' pressbox, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for Whicker taking the fork from his pasta plate and sticking between my shoulder blades, or Saxon giving me the backhand for posting this photo of him and his drool-cover t-shirt:
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  • Cancel all of your plans, they're going to broad cast this!: Reyes to get dreads cut on MLB Network Friday - CBSSports.com. "It’s official: Jose Reyes will cut off his trademark long hair Friday on the MLB Network. More details to follow," tweeted Reyes' agent, Chris Leible Tuesday night"
Poll
Heading into the first month of the season, which of the four scenarios do you see happening?
Trumbo plays third, Morales is healthy
256 votes
Trumbo can't play third, Morales is healthy
228 votes
Trumbo can play third, Morales is still hurting
139 votes
Trumbo can't play third, Morales is still hurting
196 votes

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Miguel Cabrera can play 3rd like Bengie Molina can play CF.

Miguel Cabrera’s version of playing 3rd will be standing in one spot near 3rd base, except for when he’s falling to the ground one step in either direction as balls go whizzing by.

by ~MMP~ on Feb 2, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

The Tigers should have Cabrera and Fielder play SS and 2B respectively.

Their collective weight up the middle would be so enormous that a gravitational field would manifest itself, attracting any hit ball directly their way so they wouldn’t have to move.

"F it, let's pitch." - Ervin Santana

by Chzburger Jones on Feb 2, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Trumbo's got potential at 3rd - How the hell can Morales not be healthy?

Trumbo’s a good athlete, fielding is similar to 1st, which he did well enough and showed continuous improvement on last season. He also has a cannon for an arm. The guys in the club house said last season that he can still throw well above 90 mph and he’s accurate. Remember he was a former pitcher and was first converted to outfield.

Morales’s health? How the hell can he not be healthy by now? It was a broken ankle. That shouldn’t take two years to heal well enough to play DH. We don’t want him back for his base running. All he has to do is run just well enough. I just hope his bat isn’t so rusty that he can’t get back to his old self at the plate.

by David Schroeder on Feb 2, 2012 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

Morales doesn't need to be 100% to DH

He has two years of club control left and I don’t think he plays 1B at all in 2012. He just needs to be able to drive the ball and occassionally run as far as second base.

One of the great things about having Trumbo and Abreu on the bench is that when Morales gets lifted for a pinch runner, there is a serviceable bat to replace him. Depth is a great thing.

by JeffJoiner on Feb 2, 2012 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

^^^So true

I hadn’t thought if the depth in that way yet. It’s true that if Kendrys comes back he’ll get pinch-run for a lot.

Don't call me Bugs. Although Bugs Bunny could do it all on the baseball field.

by highlandhalo on Feb 2, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Good point

Yet another reason not to rush to trade anyone (unless it’s Wells).

by Brody on Feb 2, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Glad to see somebody thinking about depth besides me.

Everyone is ready to trade Trumbo, Abreu, ect. but nobody ever considers how important depth is. You never know what is going to happen injury wise. Let it play out.

"One time, when we got back to the locker room, all of our clothes were gone," Trout recalled. "They left me a Lady Gaga costume and I had to wear it."

by 44FAN on Feb 2, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree.

I think everyone, after thinking about it, would agree to let it play out. But, at the same time, everyone wants it to play out RIGHT NOW!

Winning doesn't matter. –Lyle

by 5thStarter on Feb 2, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Depth is great

And I’m not worried about Trumbo. But when highly paid veterans start sitting regularly, you worry about the bitching factor. I would hope that everyone on the team is a good soldier who just wants to win. But you know these guys want to be out there everyday. Hopefully no one makes a fuss.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Feb 2, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see Torii or Abreu doing that.

Bobby might get restless, but he knows how much the younger guys use him as de facto hitting coach and seems to like it. Plus, I see plenty of pinch hit AB’s for him; maybe even some pinch running as he is a better runner than both Morales and Pujols.

by JeffJoiner on Feb 2, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I expect that we learn soon that Vernon Wells is NOT to blessed to bitch.

The only thing VW did differently last year than the year before, besides inflate his stats by playing half his games in Toronto, is buy into the Scioscia/Hatcher philosophy that a walk is as good as an out. 2011: .218/.248/.412. 2010(road stats): .224/.299/.400.

by snowhor on Feb 2, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Well Jackson's off the market

oh well I’m excited to see how J-Williams (J Miracles) does in a full year. If Trumbo can’t learn 3rd base and Morales is healthy (which is what I voted) then somebody becomes expendable in ST.

by Morales8 on Feb 2, 2012 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

The very notion of peanut allergies baffles me.

George Washington Carver must be spinning in his grave over this white middle-class phobia.

Dear Texas: "One, two...........THREE!" The next number IS THREE!!!

by Stirrups on Feb 2, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah it's February

George Washington Carver month.

by Halowitz on Feb 2, 2012 7:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Allergies are real.

My daughter is deathly allergic to tree nuts (not peanuts, thank goodness).

We had never thought about food allergies, and she was 4 when we found out. It wasn’t hysteria. Also, I doubt that a 4 year old can fake an allergy scratch test.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Feb 2, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Bullpen ERA's

The Rangers scored nearly 200 runs more than the Angels in 2011. Of course their bullpen could give up .6 runs a game more and not blow a save.

by FROG13man on Feb 3, 2012 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

Hey if neither Trumbo nor Morales are healthy...

We can just DH Wells or Abreu and let Trout takeover LF. I’m okay with that scenario, Trumbo and Morales will make us that much better if they comeback 100% healthy and get more time to learn their new roles i.e.(DH and 3b).

by OppoTaco25 on Feb 3, 2012 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

Am I not remembering correctly

or wasn’t Morales a third baseman on the Cuban national team? When the Angels got him he could play both corner infield and outfield spots. They made him a first baseman because of their need at the time. Once the leg proves to be healed he could probably slide in there if Trumbo doesn’t work out.

by Newman! on Feb 5, 2012 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

They should put Morales at short

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Feb 5, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd prefer him at catcher in case Iannetta pulls a Mathis.

His ankles can handle the crouch, right? If not, he can do a Tony Pena.

Winning doesn't matter. –Lyle

by 5thStarter on Feb 6, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

good call

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Feb 6, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

but he's got so little mobility and hasn't played there in years

Pujols came up as a third baseman, but he’s not going back there. (though the Cards did play him there a few games last season, I believe)

by joberooni on Feb 6, 2012 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

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