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Wednesday Halolinks: Two Who Want To Be Angels, Bobby Doesn't

Mind your P's & C's Halolinks:

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  • Many, if not all of the 30 major league teams has at least one former big-leaguer in camp on a minor league contract. Typically those players are making their last ditch effort to hang onto a major league job, to get one more chance at a championship, collect that final check, put off growing up, or simply trying to squeeze out one more year doing the thing they've dedicated their entire life working towards. In Angels' camp are Jorge Cantu and Ryan Langerhans, Cantu, Langerhans looking for a chance - angels.com. "I think they're both really interesting to us," Angels manager Mike Scioscia said. "Ryan's a guy that is a left-handed bat, and is a good defender in the outfield. And Jorge is really interesting, because this guy was an RBI machine." ESPN has more on Cantu: Jorge Cantu at another crossroads - ESPN Los Angeles. "Obviously, I'm not going to start. We all know that, because these guys have their nine already," Cantu said. "But I took a chance to come here, because this is such a power team. I feel like I still have a lot of skill to contribute."
  • A look at the new Halo starter: Spring offers Angels' C.J. Wilson relief from busy lifestyle - angels.com. "This year, Wilson is already making an impression on his new teammates. "I've been impressed with just seeing how hard he works," Haren said. "He's in the weight room, he's running, and that was something that I witnessed from the outside." From the outside, Weaver and Haren admittedly disliked Wilson. He pitched for the enemy, and they're old school about that sort of thing. Now that he's on their side? "I love him," Weaver said with wry smile."

  • The news coming out of Venezuela is Bobby Abreu's desire to be a full-time player, and if that's not going to be the case, he wants to be traded. Before Abreu opens his mouth again, he might want to read this: What happened to Abreu's power? - ESPN Los Angeles. "Last season, Abreu got into a rut in which if he lifted the ball into the air, he struggled to hit the ball far. His fly balls became lazy cans of corn. His power to center field completely vanished." Here's a very telling chart showing where his fly balls came to rest, which most of the time was in the outfielders' glove:
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  • Seems like a good addition, at least chemistry-wise: LaTroy Hawkins' traveling show pulls into Anaheim - latimes.com. "With a quick smile and gregarious personality, Hawkins has little trouble blending in. Three days into camp, he already has taken several young Angels pitchers to dinner and added even more phone numbers to a contact list that has to be among baseball's longest."
  • Yesterday's links had a couple posts regarding the new Angels catcher, here's one more: Chris Iannetta already knows the angles - ESPN Los Angeles. We dewb fans aren't the only ones who look at the numbers, "So, he ought to know the difference between .301 and .172. As a baseball player, he can’t help but know that’s the glaring divide between his batting average at hitter’s-haven Coors Field and every other stadium he played in last year. He just doesn’t care. Iannetta points out that in 2008, his best season, he hit .280 on the road and .250 at home."
  • Darvish impresses catcher in first bullpen - CBSSports.com. "According to Martinez, Darvish threw 30 pitches at about 70-80 percent, with the last few pitches coming in somewhere in the lower 90s. Martinez said Darvish actually apologized to him when he missed his spots." Dreamy and polite. Worth every penny.
  • Hey, that's my hat! Evan Longoria confirms he is dating Jaime Edmondson - Larry Brown Sports. ""I don’t even think of her like that," he said when someone reminded him that he’s now dating Playboy’s Miss January 2010 and a former Miami Dolphins cheerleader." That's not my hat. There's my hat (jumps outta top bunk).
  • Buy the guy a beer: Retrosheet Mysql Database download - Baseball Heat Maps. After you build that database.
Poll
If he can't be a full-time player with the Angels, Bobby Abreu wants to be traded:
He should be a full-time player.
36 votes
Shut up and do what you're told.
319 votes
Buh-bye.
465 votes

820 votes | Poll has closed

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Bobby doesn't seem the type to cause a rift...

I have nothing to go off of that but he jut doesnt have that record. Despite all this news about him wanted to be a full-time player, we will see what the deal is when the season starts. I imagine he will accept his role.

"The Transplant" (So. Cal boy stuck in NYC)

by BryanHarvey'sMoustache on Feb 22, 2012 6:15 AM PST reply actions  

I think I've read a few times in the past year how he wants to play 2-3 more years to chase milestones

So this is 100% about stats for Bobby and that the idea of being on a team that could win a ring is not important to him.

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Feb 22, 2012 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

To Be Fair

Another 2-3 years could be what seals a place in Cooperstown. I can’t hold that against the guy.

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Feb 22, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course not, but he should be up front about that

Come out and say “I have to play everyday to reach individual goals. I am not concerned with being a part of a TEAM at this point in my career”

RIP Nick Adenhart

by ihearhowie2.0 on Feb 22, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't hold the fact that he wants to play everyday against him.

I’m sure every player would like to play everyday in a perfect world.

However, I don’t think going to the media about it is the right way to handle it AT ALL.

by ~MMP~ on Feb 22, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Translation problem maybe...

Cause I just don’t see Bobby acting like that. He didn’t play everyday last season.
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by angelsfan7 on Feb 22, 2012 8:18 AM PST reply actions  

Bummer to hear Bobby say that...

and I really didnt think he was the type. However, if indeed he said it, I get what he is saying. Dont get me wrong…I dont AGREE with it persay, but I think any player at this level thinks they are fully capable of being an everyday player. It’s this mentality that likely got them to the show in the first place.

Perhaps someone should show Bobby some footage of our starting outfield. I find it hard to believe that anyone (including Bobby) thinks he should be playing ahead of Pete, Torii, or even VW…unless, of course, VW posts a sub mendoza average again. Maybe Bobby would enjoy a trip to the formidable Angels’ boothill of St. Louis.

Angels Baseball--"A collusion of one"-Sam Miller

by autry's cowboys on Feb 22, 2012 8:30 AM PST reply actions  

DiPoto put the Smack Down on it

Said: " It’s not something that we’re going to play it [out] in the media. … Whether it’s an ultimatum that’s been issued, he has no right to do that." "

Official Site

R.I.P. Nick Adenhart - Always an Angel

by Kernel on Feb 22, 2012 8:42 AM PST reply actions  

I find a new reason to like DiPo every week.

We’re lucky to have him on board and I have regained full confidence in Arte’s HR capabilities.

Official prediction: The Angels will win the AL west this season.

by RexTookMyStash on Feb 22, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm back on the Trade for Longoria bandwagon.

Scioscialist Party of America - Redistributing your defense since 2000.

by Commander_Nate on Feb 22, 2012 8:48 AM PST reply actions  

Abu for Wright

one big head for another with a big head

Forget Tebow
Andy Lee is the second coming of Jesus
-ME

by DAD OF VLAD on Feb 22, 2012 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

Hahahah!

"Stay loyal to the Angels. As for me, I'm jumping on the Nationals bandwagon, later." -Daniel Sirca

by migfig on Feb 22, 2012 9:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I just stoked that the Mariners are going to hit Ichiro third

New leadership same results.

Willits? Check. Reagins? Check. Mathis? Check

by hauldog on Feb 22, 2012 9:31 AM PST reply actions  

I'd like to see VW's chart...

I’m sure that the infield would be completely covered in a sea of blue dots.

12/8/11!!! What a day!

by stuck in Romania on Feb 22, 2012 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

well done, sir

That’s very funny (in a sad way).
If this graph included K’s, there would be a huge red blob at home plate.

by Raaddad on Feb 22, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

HFS...

I knew it was BAD, but I didn’t know it was THAT BAD!

I love this team.

by Downing Rules on Feb 22, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I used foxsports

link
they also have “hot zone charts” that show the 9 areas of the strike zone and batting average. vernon actually did well with stuff down and in or up and away. He sucked everywhere else though.

by Balls and Strikes on Feb 23, 2012 1:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like those 500 foot HRs he's trying to hit are good for only about 350-375 feet.

He should really miss playing in Toronto. He should waive his no trade clause to go back. We’d probably have to take Mathis back in a trade, though.

"A walk is as good as an out." -- Mickey Hatcher (not really, but you know he wants to say it)

by snowhor on Feb 23, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Was looking up Jorge Cantu

and discovered that he’s only 30 years old! He looks like he could be 40

by TheAntiSox on Feb 22, 2012 10:24 AM PST reply actions  

Excited about Ianetta

He’s sort of lost in all the Pujols and Wilson extravaganza, but let us not forget that Ianetta symbolizes the end of the Reagins and Mathis era.

Where were you on December 8th, 2011 - Pujols Day?

by Rally Manatee on Feb 22, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

He's also a 4 WAR upgrade at one position

That’s probably just as big an improvement as Pujols or Wilson. You can do that when the old guy was good for -1.0 WAR every 300 PA.

by Suboptimal on Feb 22, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

1.65 millions

Why do the Angels only get 1.65 million to spend in the first ten rounds of the draft?
If the Angels loose their first two picks why can’t they put the money on later round picks?

by Trott on Feb 22, 2012 1:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Because that would defeat the purpose

Which basically consists of artificially depressing salaries for young men who could probably use the money and keeping it in the pockets of old multi-millionaires.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Feb 22, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Cantu intrigues me

When healthy he can be a good hitter,but his health is a huge if. I would like to see him make the team out of ST and give us some bench depth at 3rd base.Those Pujols Big A billboards give me a boner.

by HaloNachos on Feb 22, 2012 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

Pujols doesn't.

If the Halos don't care about the way they play, then why should I?

by red floyd on Feb 22, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess not.

Too funny. Like 5 minutes after I posted this, the post came up about his aversion to that name. o well…

by Raaddad on Feb 22, 2012 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I kind of understand where Bobby is coming from.

I am hoping Bobby has a comeback year and really helps the team. Abreu has always been a team player and I think he is just making his feelings known that he feels he should be a full-time player and if that cannot happen he would rather be traded.

I do not think he is being a primi donna or does not have the team’s best interests in mind. That being said, he needs to prove what he can do in Spring Training. Bobby come in and show them what an asset you are and then I am with you 100%, if not well…

by kbrown2225 on Feb 22, 2012 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

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