I know this is way early and out of left field, but Joe Saunders looks like he might be a good pick up this offseason if we can't keep Greinke (or maybe even if we do, who knows what Arte will do!?). I doubt he will be bank breakingly expensive and all his peripheral numbers are at the top range of his career. I used to advocate dumping Saunders cause he couldn't strike anyone out, gave up too many homers and walked too many but he's improved every single one of those categories. I really like Haren, but I would have to think Saunders is probably due to make about the same and at this point appears to be the more reliable and better option. (A sentence I never thought I would write, think or say.)