The So-Called East Coast Bias
I've been reading a lot on this site about the east coast bias, and how the Angels get no respect from the National Media, especially ESPN.
You know what, give it a rest.
There is a reason why the national media puts a majority of its focus on east coast teams.
47% of the population of this country lives in the Eastern Time Zone.
So is it any wonder that the national media puts there focus on the east coast. Part of the problem of put the focus of the bias on ESPN is that ESPN does not have seperate feeds for east coast and west coast(due to the nature of the programming). Most networks will broadcast their shows at the same time on both the east and west coasts(The Simpsons airs at 8pm on both coasts).
Also, take a look at the ESPN and Foxsports power rankings for MLB. The Angels are 2nd on both rankings. They are not biased against because they are a west coast team, they are rated the second best team in baseball, most likely because they have the second best record in baseball, and they have had the second best record for most of the season.
So relax with all this east coast bias talk, and let's enjoy the rest of the baseball season and look forward to what all of here hope will be a very successful postseason.
One final note - If there is such an east coast bias, how did I become such an Angels fan living in New Jersey my whole life in an era before ESPN and the internet. I know I saw them play before the playoffs in '79, because I was alredy a fan by the time the playoff started.
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47% of the population may live in EST or EDT
So why not pay attention to them, as well?
It's never good for business when you don't really recognize your top demographic.
I'm not saying
If you're not saying it's right
Putting the Angels
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 8:42 PM PDT reply actions
They could have put us 3rd behind the Yanks
Yeah, they could have
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Also meant to say
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If you look at the date at the top of the ranking
Yes, and?
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I was
We need that "best record" for ourselves
The rankings comment they gave the Angels was just really, really bothersome to me. They don't seem to be capable of ever just giving a flat-out compliment to the team. It always has to have some negativity that undermines the positive words they have for the team.
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i went to that one at dodger stadium too
How about the lame blog we have in the LA Times
Mainstream sux period. Stop worrying about it. Scoreboard. No BCS in the MLB.
by melvintoast on Aug 19, 2007 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF are you talking about?
Interesting. I didn't say it was an Angel blog.
Actually Casey...
That's a great compliment considering its one of the main pistons of the offensive machine.
It is not so simple
The bias is actually mislabed EAST COAST - it is a NEW YORK bias that is frustrating. Ynakees lose three and hold a meeting with the owner it is a lead story - This does not lead the ESPN news when it happens to the Nationals, the Orioles, the Pirates, or anyone else.
I remember
it absolutely kills the east coast...
Thank you, billhune.
This is interesting...
16 hits for the Yankees
11 hits for the Red Sox
8 hits for the Angels
6 hits for the Mariners
If it is true that the Yankees are done first, and thus receive more coverage, I'm curious as to why they are mentioned in articles such as "Mariners-Twins Preview" and the Mariners are not mentioned in the "Angels-Yankees Preview" even though the Angel-Yankee game is of much more importance to the Mariners than the Mariners-Twins game is to the Yankees.
It's not just the coverage.
The problem is all of the support and favoritism that is given to the BoSox and Yankers. Like the Rev mentioned, when the smallest and most insignificant of events occurs in NY, it makes the front page of their website or broadcast. Nearly all commentators and writers pull for the Yanks when they are down and hype up the BoSox/Yanks rivalry far beyond what it is worth.
We need respect and a genuine (sounding) interest in what goes on on the Left Coast from those who report on it before we worry about getting more coverage.
Hi, who here lives on the East Coast?
In Atlanta even as a National League town, there's more yankee/red sox sports coverage than would be considered grossly inappropriate.
doesn't baseball tonight air live on both feeds?
by Of Angels and Angles on Aug 20, 2007 5:30 AM PDT reply actions
I am in Montana for the summer, and
by SocalAngelFaninOC on Aug 20, 2007 8:03 AM PDT reply actions
Here's the thing you have to realize:
Fox apparently thought there was a gap in the market in terms of regional coverage and came out with all of these regional versions of Fox Sports. If you're looking for sports coverage specific to your region, just watch that channel and stop whining about ESPN. If you live somewhere other than Southern California...well, that was your choice and you get to deal with the lack of Angels coverage. Yes, Fox is kind of crappy, but if you don't like, start your own channel to compete. It's a free market.
I get the feeling all of this "bias" talk is more about embracing the underdog role than anything else. If that's what turns you on, go for it. I personally don't care whether the Angels are the top story on ESPN or don't get mentioned at all. I don't need Scott Van Pelt to validate my belief that the Angels are a good team.
Excellent point! Here are some supporting numbers
I took total payroll of east coast, central and west coast teams over 80M. Here's how it breaks out:
45% east coast
30% central
25% west coast
So that means that east coast "pays" espn almost twice what west coast "pays"
Previous post:
The raw numbers:
1. NY Yankees 195,229,045
2. Boston 143,123,714
3. NY Mets 116,115,819
10. Baltimore 95,107,808
13. Atlanta 89,492,685
14. Philadelphia 89,368,213
12. St. Louis 90,286,823
15. Houston 87,759,500
4. Chicago Sox 109,290,167
8. Chicago Cubs 99,936,999
9. Detroit 95,180,369
5. LA Angels 109,251,333
6. LA Dodgers 108,704,524
7. Seattle 106,516,833
11. San Francisco 90,469,056
On the subject of business acumen, I shall repost
It is THE JOB of any media enterprise and EVERY media employee to CREATE and GROW an audience. If you cannot grab and grow audience share, you are replaced. It is the law of the land. It is NOT the job for the media to simply pick the low-hanging fruit and feed back what is easy programming to the easiest audience available - the base.
So what do they actually do? They take the pre-existing audience interest and feed it back to the pre-existing audience, using the excuse of "giving the audience what it wants". That is a bullshit cop-out. Yeah, give the audience YOU HAVE what it wants, but bust your ass to GROW YOUR AUDIENCE BY GIVING THOSE WHO ARE NOT CURRENTLY YOUR AUDIENCE A REASON TO BECOME YOUR AUDIENCE.
This is not an especailly hard notion to get a grip on. Nor, fucking ESPN dipshits, is it an especially hard thing TO ACCOMPLISH. Why not, you ask? Obvious. Those bastards have their jobs because, and only because, Madison Avenue pays all of the media employers for small chunks of opportunity to get behind the wheel of the media feed and MANIPULATE THE BEHAVIOR OF THE AUDIENCE. If the media market advertising was not effective, then advertisers would go elsewhere. The fact that they go directly TO the ESPN's and FOX Sports' of the world is total and complete evidence that advertising IS effective.
And what is advertising? It is manipulating the behavior of your audience. Manipulating. The. Behavior. Of. Your. Audience.
70% of the time, each and every hour, the media midgets have total control of what content they choose to provide. And they have the exact same power to manipulate audience behavior as the advertisers who use the other 30% to reach the same audience. Therefore, do they USE that power to DO THEIR JOB and try and grow their audience share beyond what is easy and obvious? Fuck no. That is too hard.
You're asserting that ESPN can make Mets fans
According to your theory, we Angel fans should be totally intrigued by the life and times of the Yankees and BoSox. Because that's what sport center is putting up right?
Advertisers want to make money too. If ESPN is shutting out the west coast, advertisers will find other outlets.
I claim that the East Coast has higher viewership because the East Coast teams have more sports fans. Thus ESPN will try to maximize their ratings by providing a proportionate amount of East Cost bias.
If ESPN made the ROY a big deal,
And we are intrigued about Yankees/BoSox. Do a search on "Jeter" here on HH and count the hits.
Your comment about advertisers finding other outlets is true. I would bet that advertisers DO find other outlets. ESPN should be trying to drive their market coverage in such a way that they get those advertisers BACK. That's what business competition is all about.
There is no disputing the raw population numbers. But as noted above by Rev, the coverage does not match the actual population/team representation. Not even INSIDE the mentioned geographical region.
Money talks bullshit walks
Beat journalists and talking heads don't make as much money as some people think. To tell you the truth, most of them probably make less money than you do. They're ultimately going to do whatever the execs tell them to do and the exec only care about money.
by melvintoast on Aug 20, 2007 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Alex Gordon is having a shitty season
Otherwise I agree with what you're saying in this post and this diary.
I'm just in a contrarian mood. ;)
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 20, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone remember when...
There was even an ad on the wall in right field for the opening of the then Edison Field.
Yes
Scratch video
National Coverage Has Meaning.
And anybody who thinks that the lack of media coverage allows a team to "fly under the radar" or "sneak up on eveybody else" is living in some fantasy world of grade school sports and no scouting. By the time the playoffs start, nobody is sneaking up on anybody.
Media coverage helps drive team revenues. Team revenues help drive team expenses. Think player payroll. Think strong farm system. Think strong coaching/scouting staffs. Think less expensive beer. [Think "Los Angeles" instead of "Anaheim".]
Media coverage also creates and sustains national dialog - better known as "buzz". Buzz equates to excitement. It tells players that the team is exciting. Exciting to play for. Exciting to watch. Exciting to be a part of. The team wants to win. This is of tremendous help is attracting and retaining top talent. [See Minnesota Twins/Johan Santana, or Barry Bonds immediately following the 2002 WS.]
The lack of media coverage, or the deflection of media coverage, can have a negative impact on "buzz" [Why else does Jeter get teh GG for SS and not OCab?]
Media coverage has impact. Therefore, the lack of media coverage also has impact. And the impact is far more tangible than fan whining.
Pops is right
The internet and hell this blog will continue to gnaw (is that a word?)itself into the mainstream and likely make the ESPN's of this world not relevant. They can continue to pander to East Coast Baseball and soon enough that will be all they have, baseball wise, while losing the market west of the Mississippi. They will become MTV and have awesome shows like "Who is the Now", with intermittent comments by Kruk and Gammons about baseball.
west coast gets east coast...
BREAKING NEWS...
IN OTHER BREAKING NEWS...
ESPN SportsCenter Game Highlights
- "Baseball major's best since the All-Star break." (Yeah Yanks!)
- A-Rod's HR puts Yankers up 4-3. (Yeah Yanks!)
- (brief comment about A-Rod's season stature) (Yeah Yanks!)
- Posada's HR ties game at 6. (Yeah Yanks!)
- (brief comment about Posada's season stature) (Yeah Yanks!)
- Betimit throws out GMJ at the plate. (Yeah Yanks!)
- Willits called out check swing (Yeah Yanks!)
- Sosh ejected (Yeah Yanks!)
- GMJ grounds out to end the 9th (Yeah Yanks!)
- Budde wins the game (Yeah Halos!)
- Wrap up exclusively about A-Rod's 40HR seasons. (Yeah Yanks!)
That's the kind of list
Maybe we should volunteer one person each day to type a list of favoritisms and we can compile it at the end of the season and send it to ESPN. Wait... that wouldn't do anything except make them think they are better at their jobs than they already do.





























