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The So-Called East Coast Bias

I've been reading a lot on this site about the east coast bias, and how the Angels get no respect from the National Media, especially ESPN.

You know what, give it a rest.

There is a reason why the national media puts a majority of its focus on east coast teams.

47% of the  population of this country lives in the Eastern Time Zone.

So is it any wonder that the national media puts there focus on the east coast. Part of the problem of put the focus of the bias on ESPN is that ESPN does not have seperate feeds for east coast and west coast(due to the nature of the programming). Most networks will broadcast their shows at the same time on both the east and west coasts(The Simpsons airs at 8pm on both coasts).

Also, take a look at the ESPN and Foxsports power rankings for MLB. The Angels are 2nd on both rankings. They are not biased against because they are a west coast team, they are rated the second best team in baseball, most likely because they have the second best record in baseball, and they have had the second best record for most of the season.

So relax with all this east coast bias talk, and let's enjoy the rest of the baseball season and look forward to what all of here hope will be a very successful postseason.

One final note - If there is such an east coast bias, how did I become such an Angels fan living in New Jersey my whole life in an era before ESPN and the internet. I know I saw them play before the playoffs in '79, because I was alredy a fan by the time the playoff started.

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47% of the population may live in EST or EDT
But the top two, California and Texas, don't live there.

So why not pay attention to them, as well?

It's never good for business when you don't really recognize your top demographic.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by WeaverMania on Aug 19, 2007 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not saying
it's right, I'm just saying that it appears that is what they do. Thinking about though, ESPN does seem to give more equal coverage to the west coast teams in college football and in pro and college basketball. Also the NFL , but since all games are done(or almost done) by the time Sportscenter comes on, they can give coverage to the best games of the day. It does seem that it is only for baseball, where there is a leaning to the east coast.
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Aug 19, 2007 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're not saying it's right
I don't see any reason for us to lay off.
Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Aug 20, 2007 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Putting the Angels
in any slot OTHER than the top two in the rankings would be biased.  As is, it's simple passive recognition that would be impossible to deny.
http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

They could have put us 3rd behind the Yanks
After all, they disrespected Seattle.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by WeaverMania on Aug 19, 2007 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they could have
and it would have been completely, totally, and utterly irresponsible, untrue, and inaccurate.  There are lines they draw as far as their bias goes, they're just usually ridiculously poorly drawn.
http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also meant to say
notice the backhanded compliment from ESPN, too.  They put the Angels in second, and the only comment they give is "they suck on the road" in regards to their ranking.  What a load of horsecrap.  Probably because they couldn't name any of the players on the team to tell you what is going on with them.
http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you look at the date at the top of the ranking
You will see that it is from Friday, right after we lost two of three to the Bluejays, and possibly after the loss in the first of the doubleheader to the Red Sox.
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Aug 19, 2007 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and?
It would still be a load of crap to consider them as anything other than at least #2 in baseball.
http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was
just talking about the comment on the ranking. Not about the ranking itself. I think that they are in a dead heat with the Red Sox for the best team in baseball, and expect them to end up as the best team in baseball.
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Aug 19, 2007 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need that "best record" for ourselves
home-field advantage throughout would make us really, really, really tough to beat.  The Angels at home this year are ridiculous.  And somehow I went to one of the games they lost at home :(.  Made up for it by being at Dodger Stadium for one of the wins, though.  Even if it was the Casey Kotchman concussion game (which was horribly cheered and applauded by Dodger fans around the stadium).

The rankings comment they gave the Angels was just really, really bothersome to me.  They don't seem to be capable of ever just giving a flat-out compliment to the team.  It always has to have some negativity that undermines the positive words they have for the team.

http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 19, 2007 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

i went to that one at dodger stadium too
and everyone was cheering the kotch concussion, including my dodger fan "friends" I went with.  seriously, sickest display of lack of humanity i've seen at a baseball game.  my friends tried to play it off later as "oh, we didn't really realize what was going on."  right.
Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 19, 2007 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about the lame blog we have in the LA Times
where some dude who wears a dress rants about everything, doesn't provide any real analysis, and just picks on the Halos with references to 1986 and 1995 without pointing out their successes since then. And then when people criticize him for being a poor sports writer, he goes on the radio complaining about how people are taking shots at him because he's a dude who wears a dress.

Mainstream sux period. Stop worrying about it. Scoreboard. No BCS in the MLB.

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by melvintoast on Aug 19, 2007 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF are you talking about?
The Times doesn't even have an Angels blog.
Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Aug 20, 2007 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. I didn't say it was an Angel blog.
It's a blog that covers LA sports and since the Angels are an LA team...
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by melvintoast on Aug 20, 2007 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually Casey...
During last nights ESPN broadcast of the Angels-NYY, the announcers talked of the Yankees and how great they are but everytime the Angels came back they talked about how the Angels will run opponents into the ground, and how they're the best running team in MLB.  

That's a great compliment considering its one of the main pistons of the offensive machine.

by SactoFan on Aug 21, 2007 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not so simple
The Eastern Time zone covers A LOT of baseball towns - Detroit, Philly, Atlanta, Cleveland all in penant races all missing out on coverage.

The bias is actually mislabed EAST COAST - it is a NEW YORK bias that is frustrating. Ynakees lose three and hold a meeting with the owner it is a lead story - This does not lead the ESPN news when it happens to the Nationals, the Orioles, the Pirates, or anyone else.

by Rev Halofan on Aug 19, 2007 8:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember
reading on this site about the large number of Red Sox fans that were at the games in Anaheim when the Red Sox came to town, and I'm sure that there will be a large contingent of Yankee fans at the next three games. Maybe that plays a part in how ESPN and others cover the baseball season.
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Aug 20, 2007 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

it absolutely kills the east coast...
to admit that west coast teams are better or just as good when they simply are. and look for any team on the east coast to cover instead of giving props to the left coast. it's almost always a backhanded compliment or are certain to point out flaws that may or may not exists instead of just saying that (fill in the blank/west coast team) is a damn good team.

by thejd on Aug 19, 2007 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you, billhune.
Hopefully your insightful post will have some of these guys pulling their panties out of their vaginas.

by bc56274 on Aug 19, 2007 11:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Your Welcome
Pain heals, Chicks dig scars, Glory lasts Forever!

by billhune on Aug 20, 2007 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is interesting...
I just searched for all articles on espn.com containing "yankees" red sox," angels," and "mariners" in the last 24 hours, and to no one's surprise I received:

16 hits for the Yankees
11 hits for the Red Sox
8 hits for the Angels
6 hits for the Mariners

If it is true that the Yankees are done first, and thus receive more coverage, I'm curious as to why they are mentioned in articles such as "Mariners-Twins Preview" and the Mariners are not mentioned in the "Angels-Yankees Preview" even though the Angel-Yankee game is of much more importance to the Mariners than the Mariners-Twins game is to the Yankees.  

by BruinHalo on Aug 19, 2007 11:27 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not just the coverage.
My issues with the bias are not related to the coverage west coast teams receive.  In understand the time zone difference and all of that crap factors in and its fine not having the most highlights.

The problem is all of the support and favoritism that is given to the BoSox and Yankers.  Like the Rev mentioned, when the smallest and most insignificant of events occurs in NY, it makes the front page of their website or broadcast.  Nearly all commentators and writers pull for the Yanks when they are down and hype up the BoSox/Yanks rivalry far beyond what it is worth.

We need respect and a genuine (sounding) interest in what goes on on the Left Coast from those who report on it before we worry about getting more coverage.

by agermer on Aug 19, 2007 11:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Hi, who here lives on the East Coast?
I know I do. I know the only way I'm going to see a single Angel game highlight is on mlb.tv, the official Angel's site or halosheaven.

In Atlanta even as a National League town, there's more yankee/red sox sports coverage than would be considered grossly inappropriate.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Aug 20, 2007 1:54 AM PDT reply actions  

doesn't baseball tonight air live on both feeds?
i'm pretty sure the east and west coast both get live feeds of this and they still can't get through the program without breaking news that JD Drew just hit a single!  holy shit!  or let's stop whatever we were talking about so everyone knows that alex rodriguez is being a drama queen again.  i'm currently living in the UK, and locals wear yankees hats and have no idea what it is.  just that it's some popular thing in america.  disgusting...

by Of Angels and Angles on Aug 20, 2007 5:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I am in Montana for the summer, and
the only way I get to watch an Angels game is if they are playing the Yankees or Red Sox and it is on National TV

by SocalAngelFaninOC on Aug 20, 2007 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Here's the thing you have to realize:
ESPN is a business.  Businesses do whatever they think will maximize their profits.  ESPN certainly seems to think that focusing an inordinate amount of its attention on New York and Boston will maximize its profits.  If you don't like it, don't watch the channel and don't use the website.  If enough people on the west coast stop patronizing ESPN, they will realize it and make any necessary adjustments to continue to maximize profits.

Fox apparently thought there was a gap in the market in terms of regional coverage and came out with all of these regional versions of Fox Sports.  If you're looking for sports coverage specific to your region, just watch that channel and stop whining about ESPN.  If you live somewhere other than Southern California...well, that was your choice and you get to deal with the lack of Angels coverage.  Yes, Fox is kind of crappy, but if you don't like, start your own channel to compete.  It's a free market.

I get the feeling all of this "bias" talk is more about embracing the underdog role than anything else.  If that's what turns you on, go for it.  I personally don't care whether the Angels are the top story on ESPN or don't get mentioned at all.  I don't need Scott Van Pelt to validate my belief that the Angels are a good team.

by Dogman on Aug 20, 2007 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Excellent point! Here are some supporting numbers
ASSUMPTION: Payroll is proportionate to fan base.

I took total payroll of east coast, central and west coast teams over 80M. Here's how it breaks out:

45% east coast
30% central
25% west coast

So that means that east coast "pays" espn almost twice what west coast "pays"

Previous post:

I just searched for all articles on espn.com containing "yankees" red sox," angels," and "mariners" in the last 24 hours, and to no one's surprise I received: 16 hits for the Yankees 11 hits for the Red Sox 8 hits for the Angels 6 hits for the Mariners
That's 27 hits for yankes bosox and 14 hits for Angels Ms. Roughly double.

The raw numbers:
1. NY Yankees 195,229,045
2. Boston 143,123,714
3. NY Mets 116,115,819
10. Baltimore 95,107,808
13. Atlanta 89,492,685
14. Philadelphia 89,368,213

12. St. Louis 90,286,823
15. Houston 87,759,500
4. Chicago Sox 109,290,167
8. Chicago Cubs 99,936,999
9. Detroit 95,180,369

5. LA Angels 109,251,333
6. LA Dodgers 108,704,524
7. Seattle 106,516,833
11. San Francisco 90,469,056

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by melvintoast on Aug 20, 2007 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the subject of business acumen, I shall repost
Orginally posted here.

It is THE JOB of any media enterprise and EVERY media employee to CREATE and GROW an audience. If you cannot grab and grow audience share, you are replaced. It is the law of the land. It is NOT the job for the media to simply pick the low-hanging fruit and feed back what is easy programming to the easiest audience available - the base.

So what do they actually do? They take the pre-existing audience interest and feed it back to the pre-existing audience, using the excuse of "giving the audience what it wants". That is a bullshit cop-out. Yeah, give the audience YOU HAVE what it wants, but bust your ass to GROW YOUR AUDIENCE BY GIVING THOSE WHO ARE NOT CURRENTLY YOUR AUDIENCE A REASON TO BECOME YOUR AUDIENCE.

This is not an especailly hard notion to get a grip on. Nor, fucking ESPN dipshits, is it an especially hard thing TO ACCOMPLISH. Why not, you ask? Obvious. Those bastards have their jobs because, and only because, Madison Avenue pays all of the media employers for small chunks of opportunity to get behind the wheel of the media feed and MANIPULATE THE BEHAVIOR OF THE AUDIENCE. If the media market advertising was not effective, then advertisers would go elsewhere. The fact that they go directly TO the ESPN's and FOX Sports' of the world is total and complete evidence that advertising IS effective.

And what is advertising? It is manipulating the behavior of your audience. Manipulating. The. Behavior. Of. Your. Audience.

70% of the time, each and every hour, the media midgets have total control of what content they choose to provide. And they have the exact same power to manipulate audience behavior as the advertisers who use the other 30% to reach the same audience. Therefore, do they USE that power to DO THEIR JOB and try and grow their audience share beyond what is easy and obvious? Fuck no. That is too hard.

by Stirrups on Aug 20, 2007 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're asserting that ESPN can make Mets fans
watch Royal games. Mets fan doesn't care about the Royals and putting the Royals on sports center doesn't get them interested.

According to your theory, we Angel fans should be totally intrigued by the life and times of the Yankees and BoSox.  Because that's what sport center is putting up right?

Advertisers want to make money too.  If ESPN is shutting out the west coast, advertisers will find other outlets.  

I claim that the East Coast has higher viewership because the East Coast teams have more sports fans.  Thus ESPN will try to maximize their ratings by providing a proportionate amount of East Cost bias.

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by melvintoast on Aug 20, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

If ESPN made the ROY a big deal,
they could track Alex Gordon as but one part of their storyline all season. Packaged right, even Mets fan would donate 60 seconds of real interest Alex Gordon regularly as part of the developing AL ROY race. Then, yeah, Mets fan would not give a shit about how the Royals are doing, but would end up watching highlite segments about a Royals player. Mets fan would be watching Royals action.

And we are intrigued about Yankees/BoSox. Do a search on "Jeter" here on HH and count the hits.

Your comment about advertisers finding other outlets is true. I would bet that advertisers DO find other outlets. ESPN should be trying to drive their market coverage in such a way that they get those advertisers BACK. That's what business competition is all about.

There is no disputing the raw population numbers. But as noted above by Rev, the coverage does not match the actual population/team representation. Not even INSIDE the mentioned geographical region.

by Stirrups on Aug 20, 2007 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Money talks bullshit walks
Your comment about advertisers finding other outlets is true. I would bet that advertisers DO find other outlets. ESPN should be trying to drive their market coverage in such a way that they get those advertisers BACK. That's what business competition is all about.
I remember when ESPN was running instructional films on diving. They are now a media force and they now have direct competition. If you don't think people at ESPN are working overtime to figure out how to raise the Disney stock price your crazy!

Beat journalists and talking heads don't make as much money as some people think. To tell you the truth, most of them probably make less money than you do. They're ultimately going to do whatever the execs tell them to do and the exec only care about money.

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by melvintoast on Aug 20, 2007 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alex Gordon is having a shitty season
and the only time Jeter is talked about here is to discuss how much we hate him being talked about so much by other dipshits on ESPN and such.

Otherwise I agree with what you're saying in this post and this diary.

I'm just in a contrarian mood. ;)

http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 20, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone remember when...
ESPN was going to launch "ESPN West" in 1998?

There was even an ad on the wall in right field for the opening of the then Edison Field.

by swiss mcgee on Aug 20, 2007 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I do
it was inbetween the scorebords

by rjcicc on Aug 21, 2007 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes
Blame the cable companies.  Or perhaps Disney's greed for asking too much money per video
I'm giving Figgins a big F U. Seattle isn't winning 90. I am not worried.

by hauldog on Aug 21, 2007 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scratch video
I meant viewer
I'm giving Figgins a big F U. Seattle isn't winning 90. I am not worried.

by hauldog on Aug 21, 2007 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

National Coverage Has Meaning.
This is not exclusively a rant against the predominant national media by local fans who want to watch the best moments of their team over and over, again and again, until they nod off to sleep. This is a much broader issue.

And anybody who thinks that the lack of media coverage allows a team to "fly under the radar" or "sneak up on eveybody else" is living in some fantasy world of grade school sports and no scouting. By the time the playoffs start, nobody is sneaking up on anybody.

Media coverage helps drive team revenues. Team revenues help drive team expenses. Think player payroll. Think strong farm system. Think strong coaching/scouting staffs. Think less expensive beer. [Think "Los Angeles" instead of "Anaheim".]

Media coverage also creates and sustains national dialog - better known as "buzz". Buzz equates to excitement. It tells players that the team is exciting. Exciting to play for. Exciting to watch. Exciting to be a part of. The team wants to win. This is of tremendous help is attracting and retaining top talent. [See Minnesota Twins/Johan Santana, or Barry Bonds immediately following the 2002 WS.]

The lack of media coverage, or the deflection of media coverage, can have a negative impact on "buzz" [Why else does Jeter get teh GG for SS and not OCab?]

Media coverage has impact. Therefore, the lack of media coverage also has impact. And the impact is far more tangible than fan whining.

by Stirrups on Aug 20, 2007 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Pops is right
ESPN and other medias are going to have adjust sooner or later or they are going to be unable to grow and make money.

The internet and hell this blog will continue to gnaw (is that a word?)itself into the mainstream and  likely  make the ESPN's of this world not relevant.  They can continue to pander to East Coast Baseball and soon enough that will be all they have, baseball wise, while losing the market west of the Mississippi.  They will become MTV and have awesome shows like "Who is the Now", with intermittent comments by Kruk and Gammons about baseball.

by cupie on Aug 20, 2007 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

west coast gets east coast...
coverage constantly force fed down our throats but east coast gets west coast coverage by default or a slow day east coast day.

by thejd on Aug 20, 2007 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS...
ESPN just reported that robinson cano ran out of milk in his apartment. buster olney will have some shocking insight on how this affects tonights game, the playoff race, the yankees and the leagues off season plans and how this ultimately will affect yankee lore.

by thejd on Aug 20, 2007 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

IN OTHER BREAKING NEWS...
not to be outdone, the redsox have notified ESPN that jason varitek has a a slow leak in his right fron tire. in a very special baseball tonight tim kurkjian will examine if this is another example of the curse of the bambino while struggling through his sneaky adult puberty afflicted voice. in other news, the angels and seattle are closer in a tighter playoff race than the yankees and redsox that's if anybody west of bristol, conn cares.

by thejd on Aug 20, 2007 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

ESPN SportsCenter Game Highlights
In order:
  1. "Baseball major's best since the All-Star break." (Yeah Yanks!)
  2. A-Rod's HR puts Yankers up 4-3. (Yeah Yanks!)
  3. (brief comment about A-Rod's season stature) (Yeah Yanks!)
  4. Posada's HR ties game at 6. (Yeah Yanks!)
  5. (brief comment about Posada's season stature) (Yeah Yanks!)
  6. Betimit throws out GMJ at the plate. (Yeah Yanks!)
  7. Willits called out check swing (Yeah Yanks!)
  8. Sosh ejected (Yeah Yanks!)
  9. GMJ grounds out to end the 9th (Yeah Yanks!)
  10. Budde wins the game (Yeah Halos!)
  11. Wrap up exclusively about A-Rod's 40HR seasons. (Yeah Yanks!)
That's what I get for my 53% (non EDT) audience coverage?

by Stirrups on Aug 20, 2007 11:33 PM PDT reply actions  

That's the kind of list
that I always create in my head whenever I watch that bastard network to get my sports fix.  I sometimes feel like I am looking for the bias so much that it results in an overreaction and hypersensitivity to everything said.  However, actually seeing such a perfect example of the bullshit that they call a recap laid out in text makes me feel less crazy.  

Maybe we should volunteer one person each day to type a list of favoritisms and we can compile it at the end of the season and send it to ESPN.  Wait... that wouldn't do anything except make them think they are better at their jobs than they already do.

by agermer on Aug 20, 2007 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

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