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Angels Season Seat Holders See Price Increase

None of this would have happened if Disney Sports President Paul Pressler would have let Bill Stoneman begin a rebuilding in December of 2001 by trading Darin Erstad to the ChiSox for John Garland and 2 scrubs. The permanent rebuilding of the franchise would have continued. Salmon would have been traded to the D-Backs, Percival traded at the July '02 deadline, no wild card, no division titles, no postseasons.

We would still be the Winged-logo losers selling 17,000 tickets weeknights and 28,000 on weekends - and that is assuming the franchise would not have been contracted outright. Remember all the talk about contraction? It is inconceivable now, but we were on the short list after Montreal and Minnesota.

Vlad would be a Dodger. We'd be ruing the impending free agency of Frankie. The notion of a bandwagon would apply to the Dodger fans who hopped on the trend with their '04 division title.

Season ticket Holders received notice of the price increases this past week. Tickets that cost season seat holders $6 in 2001 will cost $13 for the 2008 season. A similar seat in Fenway Park has it's face value listed as $23 on that team's website.

Since the 2001 season, this team has produced 1 Wild Card, 3 Division Titles, 4 ALDS appearances, 2 ALDS Series victories, 2 ALCS appearances, 1 American League Pennant and 1 World Championship. And that is after 14 seasons of being out of it pretty much every April, which followed the dissapointing decade (1977-86) of almosts and might-haves... well, the increase in ticket prices is absolutely reasonable.

It was just over 2,200 days ago that the Winged Logo uniform saw its final game. Since then, this franchise has been transformed entirely, almost beyond recognition. And nearly all of that change has been great. The controversies have only been over what was best for the future, never any entanglements with a tame, dull past.

It is OUR team, and we are being given an opportunity to pay for future success. Pitch in.

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I completely agree
and expressed a similar sentiment in the diary entry now near the bottom or off the list of recent diaries.

But we've had two ALCS appearances since 2001, not four.  Just a quick fix.

http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 17, 2007 1:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

fixed it.
Thanks! That is 4 ALDS, 2 ALCS.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 17, 2007 1:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

While we're at it
it's also two world series appearances/wins.  There was also 2005 where the Angels took the first two games of the ALCS and demoralized Chicago in heading back to Anaheim in a deficit, and losing in 5 games before the Angels swept the Astros.

At least that's what I remember happening.

http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 17, 2007 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

my feelings
I feel though that we are paying for finelys contract, Hillenbrands contract, and even though I like GMJ his contract too since it was a poor one. Raising prices is fine, we have put a winning team on the field. But raising for what. In the past 2-3 years we have been screaming for a power hitter to no avail, we have wanted better pitching, none wa signed but some rookies came through. I am just curious as to the reason for the raise. Signing an A-Rod or a Manny Ramirez a couple of years ago, I could understand, but our prices have gone up significantly with no significant signings to show for it. The postseason is great, but are we paying more for the sheer point that we hve made it to the postseason by having some rookies come through, some guys having career years and good pitching. Is it a 'reward'?
If you bought a Lexus every single year for 30-35K and then one year the same Lexus was 45k. Aren't you going to expect some new features. but if they told you it was because they have proved themselves as good car makers and that the car  was the same car as last year you wouldn't buy it.
Sorry it is the only analogy I could think of.

by Sinatrasratpack on Nov 17, 2007 9:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

or....we really want to buy the racy sport model
but they keep selling us the family mini-van because that's what they have on the lot.
"We're still in the information-gathering process," Reagins said.

by 44FAN on Nov 17, 2007 9:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Salmon TRADED to the Snakes?
As I recall it, his contract was up in 2001 and he had the option of returning as an Angel.  Going to the Diamondbacks was appealing precisely because of management's inability to put a winner on the field. (He was at the time the longest active player never to appear in a postseason game.)
Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Nov 17, 2007 10:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If they had been going nowhere
He would have been traded to the team near his home (his 10/5 leverage would have seen to that).

by Rev Halofan on Nov 17, 2007 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and
there is simply no way Vlad is a Dodger anyway.  While nothing was said explicitly about this from the Commissioner's office, the Times reported that not signing Vlad was the price of getting MLB to waive the debt service rule for Frank McCourt.  He couldn't be seen making tall-dollar deals that would inflate salaries, not that that hasn't happened since (see: Nomar Garciaparra, Juan Pierre, etc.).
Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Nov 17, 2007 10:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Times Dodger Bias
One of the reasons Vlad was waiting around was for the Dodgers to clean house - which they would have done by February - it was Stoneman's lightning-quick offer that got Vlad. Without the Angels bidding, McCourt would have shored up his finances and brought in the big guy.

by Rev Halofan on Nov 17, 2007 11:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was more
of the Alfredo Griffin connection.  Vlad doesn't seem to be of the Boras "most $" mindset -- it actually appears he wanted to play here and therefore signed.

Really seemed more like Moreno's "lightening-quick offer" to me.

by Bilko 420 on Nov 17, 2007 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

McCourt didn't even officially own the Dodgers
until 2 weeks after Vlad was signed, did he?  The whole financial situation in Los Angeles at the time was a clusterfuck.  I'm not so positive he was ever gonna end up there.
http://kotchatthebat.livejournal.com/

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 17, 2007 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its one thing to raise prices
but it seems as though the setiment is, lets see more than 3 and out to the Red Sox in the ALDS. If we are coughing up $35/seat x 4 seats x 83 games (Reg. Season plus the Exhibition games) = $11,000+ then lets see a team that can dominate the postseason and be able to withstand injuries come October.

GA's "pink eye", Kotchman and Hatcher's "stomach flu" seems all too earrily familiar to Wally's leg infection that kept him out of the last games of teh '86 ALCS.  Maybe the medical staff of teh Angels needs to give the team a round of injections before they travel to Fenway?  Or perhaps that is the reason fo rthe increased cost in tickets?

Yes they are our team, and 2002 went a LONG way in making up for '82, '86, and '95, but being teh Sox doormat is too much (and having to be reminded of it) whenever the Sawks are in town by their post-2004 johnny come lately, green hat logo wearing, "Schilling is da best pitcha eva" fans.

As has been pointed out previously, the combined expiring contracts of Hillensuck, Bartolo, Carrasco, and Molina are $25,000,000.  For guys that are not going to be re-signed, that gives you a lot of money to go and get a particular player who has already agreed to a "framework," even if it costs another 3,000,000 George Washington's.

Let's see, we need $3,000,000 in additional revenue, where could that come from? What was the attendence last season?  More than 3,000,000 you say? People will pay how much for an authenic jersey with "Rodriguez 3" on the back?  Back to back appearances in the World Series?  The only team to repeat as Champs AND win three titles this decade? No, we don't want to do that.  I'd rather keep $25,000,000 and take my chances and beleive that merely "appearing" in the post season is good enough.

Again, please do not get me wrong here.  I love this team and am thankful for the Moreno family and their commitment to having a winning team, the World Series in '02, and the great atmosphere at the ballpark.  

That being said, if we want to be taken seriously, have more national recognition and recognized as one of, if not the best team of this new century, please, please, please get us someone who can protect Vlad and give GA a chance to drive in more runs.

It is way overdue Arte. #5 needs to be retired by the Angels.

by BrianDowningFan on Nov 17, 2007 1:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the Busiess logic of the Squeeze
I think that many season seat holders who buy 4 seats do not fill those four seats every game and that team management hopes many holders of 4 seats will pare down to 2 seats.

Sure, it is easy to get 4 people to go to Yankee/Crud Sox/Dodgers plus Friday and Saturday games, but many people with 4 seats miss games, send 2 people to the game on wednesday/Sunday afternoon, et cetera.

If those choice seats are on the market - that means they will eb filled more often and will be filled with people new the fan experience who will buy more memorabilia, more stadium food, etc.

Arte's ticket message: USE IT OR LOSE IT...

by Rev Halofan on Nov 17, 2007 8:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Frankie wouldn't be an impending FA
he'd be a 7-12 starting pitcher in 2005, then we would have traded him for Dmitri Young.

by rbrianc on Nov 18, 2007 10:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Reagins' first Blunder?
According to Stephen Smith at futureangels.com, the Angels may have lost promising minor-league reliever Warner Madrigal due to a paperwork screw-up:

UPDATE 12:15 PM PST -- At the same link as above, Jamey Newberg now suggests the Angels lost Warner Madrigal because they failed to do their paperwork properly. Jamey believes the Angels' front office sent paperwork to MLB adding Madrigal to the 40-man roster on November 6, not realizing that Madrigal had already taken his six-year minor league free agency on October 28 . . . .

http://futureangels.mlblogs.com/futureangels/2007/11/whither_warner_.html

by G Abbes on Nov 18, 2007 3:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

+1
Angels -1
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by Bilko 420 on Nov 18, 2007 3:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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