Sportswriter Bill Conlin Praises Hitler in Attack on Bloggers
If you have any interest in the uneasy divide between Mainstream print news reporters and bloggers, you may find this Fort Sumter-like volley by Philadephia Daily News sportwriter Bill Conlin interesting, if not downright shocking.
In attacking bloggers, Conlin goes all fanboy messageboard in an email retort to an internet sportsblogger, invoking a pleasurable presumption on how Adolf Hitler might have treated bloggers. Basically you just have to read the blow-by-blow to believe it, and it is still pretty unbelievable.
Print media is like the Titanic and its overpaid blowhard writers are hanging over the deck lecturing icebergs on the threat of global warming.
YES OR NO: Bill Conlin's retirement/termination will have been announced by Decmber 31?
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No.
by scareduck on Nov 24, 2007 3:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Additionally
by scareduck on Nov 24, 2007 3:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, Enough is enough
Rev, thought this blog was about baseball...specifically, Angel's baseball. This is not the first time that mr. PDY has found a way to take a thread that has nothing to do with politics and inject his moronic views. It is much like Walter in the Big Lebowski finding a way to correlate every situation to Viet Nam...
I come here to find out what is happening with the Angel's and how the fans react to our great team. Can we leave the kool-aid drinking, pinhead crap at Air America and get back to baseball???
by HaloMachismo on Nov 24, 2007 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If this issue were about baseball...
Protecting the voice of new ideas is a fundamental principal of the Bill Of Rights. We are reacting in anger here in the blogosphere because we ARE the platform of new ideas and beyond the control of traditional communications authority.
This is a Constitutional discussion. Not Angels. Not baseball. Scareduck is well within his rights to add to a Constitutional dialog here. Regardless of how I might feel about his position, I defend his right to say it.
Additionally, I find it rather ironic that the gist of his statements are that our Bill Of Rights are threatened from within, and your response as a fellow citizen is to suggest that we proscribe those rights guaranteed under the same document.
Hmmmm.
by Stirrups on Nov 24, 2007 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My take...
The columnist represents the old-school, The Rev and other bloggers the new.
I'm not sure it's much more complicated, or political, than that.
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Conlin's invocation of Hitler
by Stirrups on Nov 24, 2007 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SO ARE THEY COMING FOR ME OR NOT ?
by Rev Halofan on Nov 24, 2007 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The quantum leap
I'd suppose that comparing Hitler to Bush, regardless of political bent, should be labeled hyperbole. Comparing Bush to Hitler (i.e. "Bushitler" for but one example), though, at some point became cliche. It doesn't even faze anyone anymore; people do not hesitate to cry fascism or even nazism. Dare I say, it might even be an acceptable part of the dialogue these days, at least to some.
I'm not going to be the one to defend Bush (who the #$%! wants that job), but I will say that comparisons to Hitler are implicitly offensive in a way not entirely unlike Conlin's casual Hitler analogy. I cringe at what the world's remaining survivors must feel like to see the Holocaust trivialized so effortlessly.
I'm in line with my list of complaints, like many, but I'm not about to lose all perspective by comparing the modern U.S. to the Germany and Poland that my grandparents fled. NO WAY.
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
This blog is about baseball. Angel's baseball. That is why it is called Halos Heaven. You see, if it was called "Twisted words from the douchebag left", then your posts would be at home here.
As for your contention that ANY of this is about someone posting "new" ideas, you are sadly mistaken. There is nothing "new" about anyone thinking that the big, bad, bogeyman is out to get them.
Jesus man, get back on your meds and leave your basement once in a while.
by HaloMachismo on Nov 24, 2007 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
by AlohaHalofan on Nov 24, 2007 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rev's Rule No. 1:
by rspencer on Nov 25, 2007 2:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow you're right......
by AlohaHalofan on Nov 25, 2007 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF...
Second, your flame-post methodology is totally transparent, and I will not submit. Being a knee-jerk, hair-triggered, venom-spewing blog maniac in order to stifle discussion works well on many other blog sites. But this place is, as you write, about baseball. It doesn't stick around here.
Third, I reject your attempt to pigeon-hole me, on it's face. I am a 46-year strong supporter and faithful fan of the Angels and, unlike Rob, I am not pessimistic by nature. Nor are the vast, vast majority of my posts. Hell, I might even be a member of the Republican Party longer than you, as well.
Fourth, and back on topic, perhaps I was too abstract for your way of thinking, so let me be of some help here: I was not defending Rob's notion about bogeymen tracking him down. I was defending his right, as an American, to declare his position. Yes, he did it here, on a blog called Halos Heaven, which is about Angels baseball. But it was the blog moderator himself, Rev, and not Rob who created this non-Angels baseball thread. As long as Rob confines his non-baseball views within this thread, and relative to the thread topic, his right to express himself should be defended instead of stifled. However, any time he takes such posts outside of a political thread than go right ahead and blast him. Or do as I do, and ignore him. As I am now going to do with you. So, go ahead, get the last word in with impugnity.
by Stirrups on Nov 24, 2007 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
funny
You assume I have nothing better to do than live in the blogosphere using my "methodology" to stifle discussion. Fact is, this is the only blog I ever read or post anything to. I have 2 companies to run as well as a family and a mortgage to feed. Bottom line is I don't have the gift of a lot of free time...in fact, I have precious little. So when I spend some of that precious time to read about my favorite team in my favorite sport, the last thing I need or want to read is about how our president, or anyone running for president from the so called right is a facist....in a baseball themed blog. I could care less if posts are on or off topic, whatever that topic may be. I reacted to the absolute stupity of the orginal post. It offends me as an American that has both friends and family in harms way defending your right to say whatever it is that makes you feel important.
However, I am in no way trying to stifle anyone from saying anything and I certainly have no ambition or ability to try and stop any discussion. Post whatever you want. If I feel strongly about it, I will post something back. You know, as in a discussion. Sorry if that is too abstract for your argument.
It is also interesting that you assume that I am a card carrying Republican. This is also not true. I have always been registered as an independant and the only way I lean is opposite of stupidity, whether that be from the right or the left.
As for your pigeonhole comment, looks like maybe you were simply projecting. There was nothing in any of my previous posts that had anything to do with whether or not you are pessimistic, middle-aged, or a stong supporter of Angel's baseball. WTF does that have to do with anything?
So please do me the favor of not doing the very thing you accuse me of trying to do. I encourage discussion and everyone's ability to express their beliefs, whether they jive with mine or not. Frankly, I am somewhat disappointed that there have not been more posts on this thread.
To the rest of you that couldn't give a shit about any of this, I apologize for taking up any of your precious time.
by HaloMachismo on Nov 24, 2007 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Additionally?
It almost seems ironic that a poster who prides himself on being the wayward voice on nearly every topic so easily, and naturally, succumbs to groupthink to an extent that requires the posting of, essentially, a paraphrasing of every paranoid op-ed piece I've read for almost five years now.
We heard you the first 15,000 times you worked Guantanamo Bay or George Bush or Halliburton or whatever into an Angel or baseball thread. Okay, okay...neo-con, gitmo, fascist, oil, inside job, blah, blah, blah. Enough already. Take it to the streets, or the polls or, really, anywhere else.
Man alive.
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If this kind of shit is so obvious
by LosAngel on Nov 24, 2007 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude,
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
by LosAngel on Nov 24, 2007 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well, you'll be crying
It's just like Neil Armstrong punching out the folks trying to spread the truth, man. Well, Neil Armstrong deserves to be punched for his part in all of these lies. And Ron Paul is just the man for the job. Vote Ron Paul and he'll punch out that braggart Armstrong.
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No way dude..
Ask yourself this: Who benefits from us going to the moon? That's right...the Bush family. It takes a lot of fricking fossil fuels to get to the moon, pal. If you don't think that we're trying to return to the moon for oil, you're fooling yourself. We're fricking imperialists man, and we're not stopping in the Middle East. Next thing you know, soldiers will be dying on fricking Uranus, man. Uranus will be filled with U.S. troops. And if you think that sounds scary, wait 'til you see the Bush plan to nuke Canada, man. That's right, he's going to invade Canada too.
You step off the ledge first, man. The government will be watching you.
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This proves it....
So Scareduck owns this site after all....
by darkangel01 on Nov 24, 2007 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
First thing's first...
More important to me, as an Englishman, however, is his use of Shakespeare (which I suspect he has neither seen or read). If you're going to quote it, make sure it fits the use.
When MacBeth talks of "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" he is talking about the futility of life in the context of the death of his wife (even though, frankly, she had it coming). Between the lines, it is Shakespeare referring quite self-deprecatingly about the value of theatre. It had nothing to do with freedom of speech or the silencing of the masses, it is a lament to his own loss, and perhaps to his inevitable demise to follow.
English literature police, over and out.
by The Limey on Nov 24, 2007 3:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
How refreshing!
by wumbug on Nov 24, 2007 4:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Panther.
by Match Day 5 on Nov 24, 2007 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What an amazing document
by mattwelch on Nov 24, 2007 8:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Perfect Sterotype of the old Grouchy Sportswriter
It's funny that his paper is in Philadelphia, and that he is basically trying to put down free speech, then he says something momumentally stupid and people are hoping HE gets silenced.
I would love to know what that guy's SAT scores were and college grades, if he went to college.
P.S. I still think Matt Holliday should have won the MVP.
by elricsi on Nov 24, 2007 9:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fat Bill Conlin
I was treated/subjected to his mindless nattering in the Philly papers on a regular basis during my time in college. It's hard to express the contempt I hold for him.
Conlin is the archetype of the fatso sportswriter: bitter that he lacks athletic ability, he delights in using his position influence sports.
Case in point: he refused to put Nolan Ryan on anywhere on his HOF ballot (you can vote for up to 10 candidates) during Ryan's first year of eligibility. His reasoning: Conlin's hero, Joe DiMaggio, was not a unanimous first-ballot selection, so Conlin sees it as his duty to make sure nobody ever becomes a unanimous, first-ballot selection.
by jjackflash on Nov 24, 2007 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No.
by Retire4 on Nov 24, 2007 1:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
NO
by acuda27 on Nov 24, 2007 3:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No. Paid leave of absence, if anything.
by Match Day 5 on Nov 24, 2007 4:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
To Directy Answer
by jjackflash on Nov 24, 2007 4:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm not for Hitler...but
Anyhow, I've never heard of this guy and I probably never would have unless someone posted it here.
by roidrage on Nov 24, 2007 11:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
or rather, fascist.
by retrohalo on Nov 25, 2007 12:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
by LAcubedfan on Nov 25, 2007 3:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jackass
How ironic that he should act like such and authority on Constitutional law, so much so that he calls out the blogger, when he has absolutely no clue.
by Dingodile on Nov 26, 2007 9:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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