Morneau WTF?!?

by Ty Webb on Nov 27, 2007 10:17 AM PST Comment 74 comments

Tony Reagins has gone insane. Seriously. I think his pent up frustration sitting under Bill Stoneman and watching him do nothing has caught up with him. He's like a kid in a candy store!

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2007/11/27/12537/055

From the link:

Just heard on AM 570 here in Orange County, that a possible Morneau deal is being worked on between the Angels and Twins. According to the sports update, the deal would include Morneau heading to the Angels in exchange for Casey Kotchman and Ervin Santana.\

I dont know how I feel about this. I still think Santana is good upside, but why would the Twins make this move? Is it because they cant lock up Morneau long term?

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This is nuts

he seriously is a ninja... I guess we're getting that big bat in the corner of the infield... just the wrong corner... we better not give up on MCab talks.

by BruinHalo on Nov 27, 2007 10:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I really

Don't see how, if we got Morneau for Kotch and Santana, how we could still get Cabrera. Marlins still want a major league SP and Morneau's due for a long-term contract soon. We can't give long-term deals to both players.

Yet, if this rumor is true, we'll give up a lot less to get Morneau and hopefully sign him. Plus he's a lefty stick.

Read my bullshit at http://mvn.com/mlb-source/author/seth.keichline/

by Ty Webb on Nov 27, 2007 10:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe...

...the Fish see this and adjust their expectations for Cabrerra accordingly.

by Ajax on Nov 27, 2007 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

This might be smoke and mirrors to bait the Fish in lowering their demands, but damn, Morneau would be a good fit for us even without getting MCab...let's get it done TR....

I hate the Red Sox...

by Crapper John MD on Nov 27, 2007 10:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Or better yet...

...we do both:

2b Chone
CF Toriiii
RF/DH Vlad
3b Fatty C
1b Morneau
LF GMJ
DH GA
SS Aybar/Wood/Maicer
C Naps

That wouldn't suck. Bring on the Sawx.

by Ajax on Nov 27, 2007 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The Sun Sentinel

(or whatever it's called in Florida) claimed that the Marlins would prefer Adenhart to Saunders or Santana because of less service time. They were claiming that the deal would be Kendrick, Mathis, Willits, and Adenhart for Cabrera.

Take the two together and you have Kendrick, Kotchman, Mathis, Willits, Santana, and Adenhart for Morneau and Cabrera. Do I think it will happen? No. But is it possible? Yes.

Holy crap can you imagine our team if it did happen!!!

2B Figgins
1B Morneau
DH Vlad
3B Cabrera
LF G.A.
CF Hunter
RF Matthews
Ca Napoli
SS Izturis

Plus a rotation of Lackey, Escobar, Weaver, Garland, and Saunders. It's too good to be true!

by DChalofan on Nov 27, 2007 10:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

someone feed this to MLB Trade Rumors

I'd like to see this RUMOR take off.

by Jay Cal on Nov 27, 2007 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Done, done, and done

No way this happens, we'd be ripping them off.

by Ajax on Nov 27, 2007 10:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Morneau's stats are just a notch below Cabrera's.

He hit 31 HR in 2007.

"We're still in the information-gathering process," Reagins said.

by 44FAN on Nov 27, 2007 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

um

they aren't even close

by The Halowed One on Nov 27, 2007 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm done listening to rumors.

Reagins has ninja magic, and a good magician knows it's all about DISTRACTION.

by Higz on Nov 27, 2007 10:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I agree

even though it's completely against the nature of this site... it seems like we should give up on trying to predict the future. We're getting sucked into the rumors more than opposing GMs. Every one of these rumors is like a mirage that disappears as we get close.

by BruinHalo on Nov 27, 2007 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It's content

Plain and simple. Trying to predict our next move is retarded, I agree. But discussing rumors and and offering our opinions is the nature of this site, no? It's what drives participation.

Plus, it gives us something to talk about while the Marlins and Angels fight over their package.

Read my bullshit at http://mvn.com/mlb-source/author/seth.keichline/

by Ty Webb on Nov 27, 2007 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

smoke and mirrors is right

This is called negotiating. We offered a price they balked at it now we pretend we are interested in someone else to see if they flinch. Haven't you guys ever been to Mexico? when you don't like the price you move towards the door to leave and you always get called back, "No, for you special price"
I like our infields upside. Sure mourneau hits more dingers but he is more expensive. You make the offer of Willits, Santana, Aybar and maybe Adenhart to the Marlins if they don't like it we will be fine this season with Figgy at third and a platoon of Aybar and Izturis at SS. Plus we all know that Wood will get his shot very soon maybe even by mid year.
Yes Aybar isn't great at the plate but COULD improve, but he does have a great glove. So you bat him 8th or 9th and take his .260 BA and deal with it.

DO NOT GIVE UP HOWIE!!!!!!!

by Sinatrasratpack on Nov 27, 2007 10:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Willits, Santana, Aybar and maybe Adenhart ?

for MCab? We'd be laughed out of the room.

by gohalos on Nov 27, 2007 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"Haven't you ever been to Mexico?'

Classic!! Except, the only problem is we are not negotiating on a ceramic mosaic of Jesus Christ

by autrys cowboys on Nov 27, 2007 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

why

doe we feel the need to have players at every position that bats .300 with 25 Hr's. every team has that guy who plays good defense and bats in the mid 200's That why they have a bottom of the order folks. to fill with these kind of guys

by Sinatrasratpack on Nov 27, 2007 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think

We just want more than ONE!

Read my bullshit at http://mvn.com/mlb-source/author/seth.keichline/

by Ty Webb on Nov 27, 2007 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What?

Wouldn't you prefer to have a GOOD bottom-of-the-order? Call me crazy, but I would want to build the best team possible, even if that meant .300 and 25 HR at every position. I wouldn't be sitting there saying, "Damn, all the guys at the bottom of the order are too good! Why didn't we just fill those spots with sucky players like everyone else?"

by Dogman on Nov 27, 2007 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

we only have one...

player who hits 25 hr's and .300, vlad.

by thejd on Nov 27, 2007 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

wrong

we have two now in Torri Hunter, Possibly one more in Kotch if he stays healthy.
I'm just saying Cabreras a great player but... remember when a couple years ago our defense was almost worst in the league and we had trouble winning those close games as a result, with Cabreras glove the way it is, he giveth and he taketh away.
Don't sell everything for the golden cow (pun intended) Make your offer stick to your guns if it works out I'd love him here, but not for that huge a price... there are cheaper options

by Sinatrasratpack on Nov 27, 2007 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hunter has never come close to hitting .300

Get rid of Quinlan

by edhoo on Nov 27, 2007 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Call me old fashioned

but I'm of the belief that .289 is damn close enough.

Not that he does it consistently, but in reality the guy is 5 hits a year from being a .300 hitter in about 4 different seasons.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 27, 2007 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope!

Not good enough for your statement to make sense or have a ring of truth to it. His career avg. is .271, he hit .287 last year--the highest he's ever hit in 10 full seasons since 2002 when he hit .289.

Is GA a .300 hitter? His career avg. over 13 full seasons is .297.

by SactoFan on Nov 27, 2007 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He said

he's never come close to hitting .300. The .287 and .289 seasons were fairly close. That's all I was saying. But no, as a whole he's not a .300 hitter...obviously.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 27, 2007 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

.289 is very close to .300

for very large values of .289. (Math joke.)

Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Nov 27, 2007 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Good Fielding...Good Pitching.....Boat load of POP

Kotch lifetime 1B .996 FP
Morneau lifetime 1B .995 FP

Izturis Lifetime 3B .941 GP 185
Figgins Lifetime 3B .954 FP GP 281
M. Cabrera Lifetime 3B .942 FP GP 375

Izturis Lifetime 2B .995
Figgins Lifetime 2B .973
Kendrick Last Year2B .978 .983 Lifetime
Aybar Lifetime 2B .977

Izturis Lifetime SS .955
Figgins Lifetime SS .952
Aybar Lifetime SS .913 OUCH!! .949 Minors

Keeping Izturis and Figgins gives you more versatility and nothing lost as far as fielding and hitting because you are getting serious run production by trading Kotch and Santana for Morneau.
Trade Willits, Mathis, Howie, and Adenhart you get M.Cabrera. Still have Aybar and you have a sick lineup of
GA 16HR
Vlad 27HR
Hunter 28HR
GMJ 18HR
M. Cabrera 34HR
Morneau 31HR
Figgins 3HR
Izturis 6HR
Napoli 10HR
50 more HR right here with these 9 then the whole Angel Roster had last year as a team

by Angel Aviator on Nov 27, 2007 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Is AM 570

A credible source? I've always found most AM radio stations to be full of feces.

"I love this british shit!" -Lou Brown

by jtkelly86 on Nov 27, 2007 10:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

And can we confirm

that more than one guy heard this?

by ghostofwallyjoyner on Nov 27, 2007 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

this could make some sense...

(sorry about the premature posting) for a number of reasons:

twins could be close to trading johan to the yanks. they'll probably get hughes, chamberlain, and melky or cano
the rumor was leaked which isn't ninja to bring the marlins asking price down for migcab
if the rumor is kotch and santana it probably is kotch+santana or saunders and willits (if melky isn't in the yankees deal) or gmj w/the angels eating some of his salary.
the twins could have a rotation of liriano (if healthy) - bonser-garza-santana or saunders-hughes-chamberlain (move him to the pen after nathan's contract is up) the twins could afford to let silva go and get draft pick compensation
angels can either stop the migcab deal and keep howie, wood, adenhart, mathis.
in an espn the magazine backpage interview w/dan patrick last year morneau listed: yankee stadium, fenway park and anaheim as his favorite places to play.

by thejd on Nov 27, 2007 10:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It seems so convenient

that a player would list 3 of the top spending teams as the places he would most like to play. Seriously... what player could possibly enjoy playing at Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park as AN OPPOSING PLAYER.

"Yeah... I love getting boo'ed every time I come up to the plate."

Of course every player with the chance at a trade "loves to play in NY, Boston, and Anaheim." It would be awesome if for once a player said, "honestly, I'd just love to play in Kansas City"

by BruinHalo on Nov 27, 2007 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A player with reverence for history of the game...

... that's who

by ghostofwallyjoyner on Nov 27, 2007 11:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Probably posturing but it does make some sense - Justin isn't a FA until 2011 but I'm sure that he would garner more than Voodoo and Casey...

Wanted: Any position player with power

by gorams77 on Nov 27, 2007 11:15 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

How does this make the Twins better?

I don't see it. Are they folding their tents?

by ghostofwallyjoyner on Nov 27, 2007 11:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Casey

has Morneau-ish upside, and Ervin bridges any gap between them in potential. If Johan is on his way out, the Twins need another ML ready starter in their rotation.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 27, 2007 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If this is true

Reagans is the ninja master, I feel we would have a much more balanced team and keep HK47 but we'll still have a hole at 3rd, but it can be fought over in spring training between izzie, figgy, mcpherson, and wood, which isn't a bad idea.

I like kotch a lot but not nearly as much as howie and i'm pretty sure he has been hexed by Russel martin's throw to his dome.

"I love this british shit!" -Lou Brown

by jtkelly86 on Nov 27, 2007 11:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I have no intention

of changing my username!

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 27, 2007 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If this deal goes down...

I'll be sure to thank Tony for an awesome birthday present.

by Jay Cal on Nov 27, 2007 11:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Conspiracy Theory

Is it just a coincidence that the Angels and Twins open the season against each other?

Or is it a coincidence that OC wasn't mentioned in the season ticket renewal package even though he had won the GG?

I hate the Red Sox...

by Crapper John MD on Nov 27, 2007 11:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

wouldnt

willits or juan rivera have to be included? This guy is 1 year removed from being the MVP. i doubt kotch and santana would get it done.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 27, 2007 11:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't...

Rivera, Kotch, and Voodoo totally be worth the upgrade at 1st?

Rivera is going to be a bench player at best. Santana and Kotch have a huge upside, but we're talking about Morneau whom, could add a hell of a lot of pop to our line-up.

by Jay Cal on Nov 27, 2007 11:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Rivera a bench-player at best??

This is a guy who hit .300 with 20+ homers and nearly 100RBIs as a DH/LF platoon.

cmon - let's not lose perspective here

"And the Anaheim Angels are the Champions of Baseball!"

by Grichfan on Nov 27, 2007 11:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe i mis-spoke

For us, Rivera will never be more than a Bench Player. Rivera could be starting somewhere else. But he won't get starts in front of Garret, Matthews, Hunter, or Vlad.

So unless Rivera wants to learn 3rd, he will spend 2008 as a bench player for the Angels.

by Jay Cal on Nov 27, 2007 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Which is sad

because Rivera is better than Hunter, Matthews, or Anderson. That's right, I said it. (Actually, I would say he is about even with Hunter - better hitter, worse fielder.)

by Dogman on Nov 27, 2007 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, the sad thing is that

people continue their man-love for Rivera. He may be talented, and in theory a better player than those you mention, but he CAN'T STAY ON THE FIELD. Either he injures himself or agitates managers, or maybe both, but he is a nearly 30-year old player (yes, he'll turn 30 during the '08 season) who has never managed to play a full season in the majors. Since his Yankee days, Juan Rivera has teased people with his natural talent. Since his Yankee days, though, he has also fallen well short of expectations.

Everyone leans on one good 3/4 of a season he had (a season when Scioscia used him carefully and deliberately) two years ago as proof that any number of Angel outfielders should sit and JR should play.

I don't know about you, but at a certain point, a player like Juan Rivera needs to do something, and fans need to stop making excuses for him. He's been an underachiever his entire career; he's not getting any younger or any lighter.

He may be theoretically better than Hunter, Matthews, or Anderson, but I'd gladly take any three of those players over a guy who CAN'T STAY (or even earn a spot) IN THE LINEUP.

His promise means nearly nothing. At some point, people need to stop hanging their hat on a thirty year old "prospect."

Why Isn't 4 On The Wall?

by Retire4 on Nov 27, 2007 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't call him a "prospect"

You're right about a few things: he's getting older, chubbier, and he has trouble staying healthy. But the fact is, when he is healthy, he's better than Anderson or Matthews and about on par with Hunter.

Therefore, I stand by statement that I would play him ahead of the other guys because ... wait for it ... I wouldn't play him ahead of those guys if he's hurt!

If he's hurt, I agree with you: he's not as good as the other guys. I didn't say we should get rid of those other guys because of Rivera. I just wish he would get more ABs than Anderson or Matthews (if healthy). Apparently I always have to say "if healthy" or you'll go off on me.

by Dogman on Nov 27, 2007 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hunter and Anderson

are the same hitter, basically. Just as an interesting aside...but statistically they're so damn similar. Same OBP and SLG and OPS+ and run production/homers. Only difference is that Hunter's AVG is lower, but his walk total higher.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Nov 27, 2007 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It's not only about

being healthy. Rivera has the ability to find ways to not be included in the lineup whether he's healthy or not. If there's been one constant throughout Rivera's career, it's been that he manages, despite his obvious talent, to fall out of favor with managers. I'm not saying that's always the case with Scioscia but I think his use has been confusing over the last few seasons. At times it seems he should be in the lineup when he's not. There's something more to Rivera's lack of MLB playing time than just his health.

Rivera has the talent to be a good player. But to call him a better player than proven veterans like Hunter and GA overvalues his raw skills and undervalues the ability of Hunter and GA to play enough games to be the proven veterans that they are. If you can't stay in the lineup, for whatever variety of reasons, then you're just a bench guy, in Rivera's case a fourth outfielder (his defining MLB role to this point), not worthy of displacing the game's true professionals on the hope that, suddenly, it will all come together.

I would argue, then, that either GA or Hunter is the "better player" (relative to Rivera). Each player has battled injuries, the difference is that Hunter and GA still have managed to play most of their team's games, as starters no less, and without the benefit of worried managers playing them only strategically/selectively.

As to "prospect," that was my term. I was giving Rivera (and you) the benefit of the doubt. Because, in my eyes, the guys on your bench are either prospects or benchwarming journeymen. Rivera is either still to be considered a prospect of some kind or he's suddenly the most glorified benchwarming journeyman in recent memory. Either way, it still seems odd to call a player like Rivera a better player than GA. Obviously, as it relates to what you'd like to see in a ballplayer, Rivera is promising (thus the word prospect). But, in reality, Rivera is GA's cabana boy, always has been and always will be.

They're just my opinions, incidentally.

Why Isn't 4 On The Wall?

by Retire4 on Nov 27, 2007 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

he disappears in the first half of the...

season when healthy and you can't rely on him being healthy for a full season.

by thejd on Nov 27, 2007 11:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

on paper

we don't have room for juan rivera or willits. but in practice, possibly matthews, vlad, and obviously GA will spend some time injured, so they would help us out. But personally, we've had a deep bench and put out a lineup of bench players for too long, we need to establish our starting lineup so that it doesn't change very often unlike last year.

I say trade Juan, we have enough outfielders and he deserves to be somewhere he can play every single day, it's not like he is going to be a high impact bat, the dude did just come off a year where he didn't play due to a broken leg so i wouldn't count on him too much.

"I love this british shit!" -Lou Brown

by jtkelly86 on Nov 27, 2007 11:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Reality

this isnt happening. the exciting thought just got all of us going, but think about it.

Why would the twins

A.) not shop him to all teams for the best package (Yankees, hello?)

B.) piss off their fanbase so much before moving into a new stadium?

by ihearhowie2.0 on Nov 27, 2007 11:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Kotch had a higher OPS then Morneau

Get rid of Quinlan

by edhoo on Nov 27, 2007 11:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Actually edhoo is right

Last year Kotch's OPS was higher than Morneau, and if you compare both age 24 seasons, Kotch does have the advantage. This might not be as good of an idea as I first thought...

Get M-Cab, try to save the Howie.

by 101halo on Nov 27, 2007 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And

His medical bill was higher as well.

by Angel Aviator on Nov 27, 2007 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If it did happen

we would have two MVPs from the last couple of years in our line-up.

I see it as a deliberat leak to see how Florida reacts. Btw, I'd take Morneau over Cabrera, we give up less.

by SactoFan on Nov 27, 2007 12:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'm beginning to see a trend for this offseason

It can be eloquently summed up by "WTF!?!" in just about every sense possible. Surprise, disappointment, disgust, euphoria, cutting deals over Macho Combo burritos -- WTF...

Rather than speculate and pitch in my 2 cents before any move is made, I'll opt to react with "WTF(s)" as they happen, which, btw, have been on the positive side for me so far...

by Big Easy Halofan on Nov 27, 2007 12:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

right but how much fun is this?...

we used to have to sit back and watch the yankees, both sox, cubs, make deals. now we're in the middle of all the hot stove hysteria. we (fans) can actually embrace our nerdish trade proposals and there's a chance they might actually happen unlike under the sit-on-my-hands stoneman era when every post of a trade proposal would be rebutted w/a "stoneman will never do it."

by thejd on Nov 27, 2007 1:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

We have already had the most exciting offseason of any team so far and if another big deal goes down we will have had the biggest offseason for a team in the recent hot stove era.

I think I am more addicted to checking this board this offseason than at any point during the season since I discovered this place a few years back. And there are many, many others who would probably say the same. That's pretty exciting.

Wherever Red Sox Nation is, I just wish Bush would invade it. President: Miggy C Man-Crush Club

by agermer on Nov 27, 2007 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I totally agree -- this is fun as hell

And while I don't post much, I have to check these threads every morning (OK, and afternoon and evening as well). You never know when another ninja strike will occur.

by Big Easy Halofan on Nov 27, 2007 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Fun As HELL!!!!

I have been reading this blog for about the last 60 days and I must say, no other Hot Stove site has the info that this site has. I am glad that I own my own company or I would have to fire me for being on the web as much as I am.

by Hapyorange on Nov 27, 2007 4:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If

Stoneman would have made trades we wouldn't be in the position we are in right now. We have a boat load of young talent and other teams want it. I think Stoneman would have wanted to make a big trade if the right deal came along, he knew his talent is good and he didn't want to trade the youngsters away just to make a so called big deal. I believe he did have a so called love affair with the kids and didn't want to see them go. So with him moving on Reagin gets to inherit all this talen which he himself didn't accumilate so it will be easier for him to trade the guys away because he isn't as attached to the guys as Stonman was. It's like when a Lion takes over the pack, he kills the baby lions that he didn't father and he starts mating with the females to have his offspring. Reagins wants to put his touches on the team so it isn't as hard for him to deal any of the young players away. Just my thoughts.

by AngelKeith on Nov 28, 2007 7:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

there are more proposals (trades that is)...

with reagins than a mail order bride business.

by thejd on Nov 27, 2007 1:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

new reagins nickname...

SVETLANA NINJA. after his ninja like persona and his penchant for proposals (trades). i know you've all seen the ads in the oc register for the svetlana agency, russian mail order brides.

by thejd on Nov 27, 2007 1:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I like Morneau, but...

anyone know what happened to him after the ASB? He hit .243/.318/.384 with 7 HRs in 74 games.

What happened?

by Angels on Nov 27, 2007 2:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

No, No, not Morneau

Kotch has every ability that no no has. Why are we even thinking about this. Why can't I find ANYBODY else talking about this?? I may be new to this site, but I know how use a computer!!

by Hapyorange on Nov 27, 2007 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

You could try going to the Del Taco

in Corona off the 91 fwy and ask if they heard anything regarding this rumor.

"We're still in the information-gathering process," Reagins said.

by 44FAN on Nov 27, 2007 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

Now, that is funny!

Vladdy + MCab > Manny + Big Papi

by halofan91 on Nov 27, 2007 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Now

If the deal could somehow snake Santana out from under the Yankees nose too that would rock. ESPN would have a massive aneurysm and coronary at the same time.

by anaheimisnotla on Nov 27, 2007 7:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Ive been thinking. . .

So I read this thread this morning and have been thinking about it all day. My first reaction was that there was no way the twins would go for it. But the more I think about it, the more it actually makes sense. I think it would take Kotch, Santana, and 1 more minor guy like Willits or someone.

If the Twins are getting rid of Johan, they might as well get rid of Morneau. Together they will get a REALLY nice package of 6-7 young, quality, cheap, mlb ready players. Put them together with Liriano, Nathan, Mauer, Cuddyer, and Casilla you have a pretty solid team in my eyes.

More importantly, the Angels lineup would be mighty dangerous:

Name Bats Position

Figgins Swtich 3B
HK Right 2B
Vlad Right RF/DH
Morneau Left 1B
Hunter Right CF
GA Left LF/DH
Izturis Swtich SS
Napoli Right C
GMJ Swithc RF/LF/DH

The bottom 3 could change while Mathis, Aybar, Wood, and platoon of outfielders give starters days off. I have been saying since begining of last season Wood will take over at SS midway through this season.

That lineup with Lackey, Escobar, Weaver, Garland, Saunders looks pretty solid to me.

by krush40 on Nov 27, 2007 10:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs