SI: John Rocker and David Bell on Albany Juice

by Rev Halofan on Mar 6, 2007 1:42 PM PST in News Comment 32 comments

In addition to Jerry Hairston Junior, it looks like Gary Matthews Juicer has company in the checkout line of the HgH Mail Order Superstore.

According to SI (via Yahoo), John Rocker and David Bell received prescribed stuff via the U.S. Postal Service.

Either these guys all got crappy batches of the magic substances or each name dropped is further proof that the sheet don't work, really...

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Wow...

Who's next to get busted, Terry Forster?

by Bilko 420 on Mar 6, 2007 2:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

awesome

a racist and an over rated bum, this is just proof that everyone is on the juice. i will no longer be a baseball fan if the rally monkey gets caught!

by wallispdub1 on Mar 6, 2007 3:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Same here.........the rally cupie got caugh last

night but if the rally Monkey goes down im going down with him(its actually a her but whatever)!!!!!!

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Mar 6, 2007 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You're going down on a monkey?

Come on, can we just save the vulgarity here for Rev. please, acuda? Just uncalled for.

That poor monkey...

by Bilko 420 on Mar 6, 2007 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Rocker better sterilize the needles

or else he's gonna be the purple-haired queer with AIDS being sat next to on the 7 train.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Mar 6, 2007 3:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

yup

I was thinking the same thing... how could Rocker be involved in anything related to the name Albany? not even a red sux fan has more hatred towards NY than him.

by Zookeeper on Mar 6, 2007 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

wow

so you gotta think the actually good players are on something ridiculous we dont even know about yet.

by ihearhowie2.0 on Mar 6, 2007 6:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

...the Owners and the Players Union know. Arte is an owner. He knows. His recent grandstanding is because he wants to get out of an idiotic contract. 50 Mil. to a mediocore, at best, GMJ. Juiced or not, what a brain fart. I wish he were in my fantasy league.

by Ralph Zig Tyko on Mar 6, 2007 8:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Clown

No offense? Howie, Kotch and Napoli will change your mind.

by hauldog on Mar 6, 2007 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

who?

Ralph, selig, MLBPA, Arte or GMjr? Or all of the above?

Lamest poster of all-time.

by ineptituderunsamok on Mar 6, 2007 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

All the above minus Arte

Mainly Ralph.

No offense? Howie, Kotch and Napoli will change your mind.

by hauldog on Mar 6, 2007 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

concur

Lamest poster of all-time.

by ineptituderunsamok on Mar 6, 2007 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Big Bad Bill:

The Enforcer.

Things possibly beginning to unravel... Squeaky clean Angels concerned with image... HGH Jr. pulls 'tude at media... Dream Team continues to stall...

LATimes.com

"We've made it clear to him that we want him to make a statement," Stoneman said. "We've encouraged him to get the facts out, get his side of the story out, whatever that story is. I understand that when lawyers get involved they generally tell you to be quiet about things. That doesn't address the public side of it."

"Our involvement now is to apply pressure to everybody who is involved and move this thing forward," Stoneman said. "We want to keep reminding people that we'd like this to be brought to a quick conclusion. ... It's a distraction right now. We don't want it to be a lengthy distraction."

"It's certainly not an ideal way to start a five-year relationship with a guy," Stoneman said.

by Bilko 420 on Mar 6, 2007 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Colon/probE

OC Register

Asked if he understood why Matthews' stance would make sense from his point of view, Stoneman said, "I'm worried about our point of view."

by Bilko 420 on Mar 7, 2007 8:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

hauldog

Don't kill the messanger.

by Ralph Zig Tyko on Mar 6, 2007 11:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Message from a Clown

Dude 10 mil for a leadoff hitter and CF is not bad. Are you for real don't kill the messenger? What is your message?

No offense? Howie, Kotch and Napoli will change your mind.

by hauldog on Mar 7, 2007 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

were forgetting the facts

if i remember correctly didnt stoneman sell us on the idea of kent bottenfield, an 18 game winner, who prior to that only won 18 games in his career!

now his signing of Grey Hairs Matthews Sr.!!!!

stoneman needs to be fired!

by wallispdub1 on Mar 7, 2007 12:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

My Message...

...is that Arte got horned. Ten mil. for GMJ is okay for one year, but five years is a joke...This won't be resolved by opening day 2008, 9 or 10-let alone this year. Dude this, putz.

by Ralph Zig Tyko on Mar 7, 2007 10:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

This is not Oaklnad

Money is not shit here, it is not a method whereby to measure the quality of a contract.

I agree with you abot the length, but GMJ's salary for Arte is like leaving an extra 10 percent ona tip at a nice restaurant just to show off...

by Rev Halofan on Mar 7, 2007 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice restaurant

that serves HGH hors d'oeuvres?

by Bilko 420 on Mar 7, 2007 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Money not the important part

Arte's obviously willing to spend the money on players he thinks will help the team. Rev, you're right, this is no small-market team.

The problem with the Matthews' signing was never the money. The problem is that the organization actually thinks Matthews is that valuable.

Let's hope this goes away soon.

by ligtreb on Mar 7, 2007 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Stopgap

I think they viewed Matthews short term contribution as potentially valuable and the long term costs as not prohibitive.

They felt they needed a CF and they got one. I do not think they felt they signed a world beater.

No offense? Howie, Kotch and Napoli will change your mind.

by hauldog on Mar 7, 2007 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He's...

...a decent player, I've no argument with that. It's just too long a contract. We need to win it all this and or next year or this will not be a pretty picture.

by Ralph Zig Tyko on Mar 7, 2007 8:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Why?

The money will not affect our ability to compete

No offense? Howie, Kotch and Napoli will change your mind.

by hauldog on Mar 7, 2007 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Really?...

...Arte haqs no budget?

by Ralph Zig Tyko on Mar 7, 2007 9:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Not one that cares

about ten mil

No offense? Howie, Kotch and Napoli will change your mind.

by hauldog on Mar 7, 2007 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

hauldog...

...please see that they guarenteed 10 mil AFTER this year to a mediocre, 31 year old who just happened to pull a year out of his ass in his "walk" year. As an Halo apologist living in Northern California amongst buddies that bleed yellow beaks on their now ugly, synthetic caps, [produced at a fraction of the price as woolen ones and sold to the public for the same price], I'm not elated...nor is Arte.

by Ralph Zig Tyko on Mar 7, 2007 11:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I am aware

it is 10 per YEAR. Still think it does not have an affect on the budget. I would bet the Angels make a VERY LARGE contract offer to A rod if he opts out and if they do you can tell me all about those bugetary concerns Ralph.

No offense? Howie, Kotch and Napoli will change your mind.

by hauldog on Mar 8, 2007 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Meant to say...

...they guarenteed 40 mil....

by Ralph Zig Tyko on Mar 7, 2007 11:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

big deal

If LAA spends too much, oops they spent too much, big deal.

If Oakland spends too muchm they are out of business.

Let THEM obsess about the money.

by Rev Halofan on Mar 7, 2007 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And we'll also get key contributrions

from Kendrick, Kotchman, Napoli, Santana, Quinlan, Izturis, for pennies. Not to top-tier level talent from Lackey, Shields, K-Rod, Weaver, and half a season of Rivera for far, far, far less than they are worth on the open market.

Oh yeah, and we just dumped Erstad, Kennedy, Jeff Weaver, J.C. Romero, Esteban Yan, Steve Finley/Edgardo Alfonzo (whoever's contract we were actually paying last year), and all of their salaries off of our payroll.

Seeing as we have an owner who wants to spend-to-win, I think one bad contract (mind you, by comparison to the money tossed around this offseason, it's really not as bad as it would have been in years past) is more than capable of being absorbed.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Mar 8, 2007 4:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs