You made my day, Rev.

Rice rise up and cheer.  Little brother has now surpassed the aging bigger bully and is now resolutely kicking its ass!

I grew up in Brooklyn and saw Jackie Robinson steal home plate as a kid. I saw the Dodgers leave town and rooted for Koufax and Drysdale when they were in the World Series.

I moved to OC in the 70s and have been to one Dodger game. I was scared shitless. Parking the car and trying to get to the seat was like crossing the freeway. Leaving was like fighting off a gang full of Mexicans with those long shorts with their underwear showing and bandannas with knives. One guy was killed that knight stabbed to death in the parking lot.

I don't see why any person from the O.C. would go there. The number of gangs and lack of security is a tremendous risk. Riding the 110 or even the 5 freeway should discourage anyone. And forcing a person to have to park in the lot for $15...No choice there...well screw that. At lease at Angel Stadium you could park up near Howell and walk or pay $5 or $8.

If you do go wear your body armor and good tennis shoes and you better speak Spanish and don't have a wallet and don't carry any cash. Those mother fuckers will get you when you're not looking. Drunken thugs...beware, try and stay away. Let them shove their Dodger dogs up Vin Scully's ass.

how is talking shit doing anything but stooping to their level?

great teams/players don't have to talk about how great they are or how worthy they are of praise, they just ARE.

Give me a freaking break.  I grew up in Anaheim, and have been an Angels fan for life.  Hate the Dodgers.  When I was younger I could not wait to get out of the OC.

 I now live near Dodger stadium.  As for it being a bad area?  Are you kidding me.  The areas surrounding Dodger stadium have practically been the epicenter of gentrification the past decade.  It is a much richer area than that surrounding Angel stadium.

Some of the posts in this thread border on racism.  Dont play into the stereotype of nice middle class white people scared by all the horrible Mexicans.  Its sad.  

when i even think about the dodgers or going to a dodger game i want to take a rape shower to cleanse the impending layers of filth off of me.

I was waiting for someone to play the race card. Congrats on being the first ValisJason, your mother must be so proud.

I like the article Rev. and it is spot on.  Dodger fans=Raider fans, and sometimes they are unable to leave their football/Raider mentality at home.

I play the cards Im dealt.  

If you think Im wrong, tell me why.  Dont just pull a Sean Hannity anti-PC victimology counter attack.

And even more than the tinge of racism, I did not like the attack on my neighborhood.  

By the way, I never criticized the Rev's posts, but rather some of the responses to it.  

Don't bash Sean Hannity. We're both Gauchos!

I'll bash Hannity all I want.  He is a perfect representative of the worst aspects of our civic discourse.  And, like him, you havent yet brought any substance, just mindless criticism.

you're going to have to show a passport to exit the stadium, the good thing is if you don't have one am sure there are about 45,000 people who could get you a fake one pretty quick. their contact is only one pre-paid calling card  call away.

The dodgers are so yesterday, and the Angels are so now, who cares? Obviously epsn and the other boys are reluctant to give up on the past. they (media) want to resurect the dodgers, they have been trying for years. Sorry boys, we are creating a new dynasty and you had better get used to it. Hasta la vista, dodgers.

Ballpark Visited: Dodger Stadium  Submitted By: J. Rodriguez Grade: D
Pros of the ballpark: I must admit that most of the fans there know they're baseball and they really do get into the game.  That and the fact that it's one of the older parks around does give it a sense of nostalgia. Also, surprisingly most people don't know, it's very easy to meet players from the visiting team right outside the right field, lower level gates.  This is a great park to get autographs from some great players AFTER the game!
Cons of the ballpark: Where do I start????
-Traffic, yes, even though you may be 1 mile (yes, 1 mile) from the stadium with 1 hour to go till gametime, you may end up getting there by the 4th inning.  Yes, this includes games against Milwaukee as well.
-The fans, yes most fans are well informed die hard Dodger fans but it has changed quite a bit as of late.  There are various gang members who attend games and forget about cheering for the visiting team, the fans will get on you and you will receive no sympathy or assistance from the ushers. It has turned out to be a not so "family friendly" park.  I know many families who will not attend games out of fear of fights and profanity laden tirades from terrible fans.  The violence has escalated in the last few years, from fans being shot to death, to vendors outside the stadium stabbing security, to a dozen fights throughout the game.  Keep your family away from this place!

Killing in Arlington Heights (near Dodger Stadium): In mid-December, a nine-year-old girl was shot in her house by a bullet from a shootout between two gang members outside. She was placed on life-support systems. Last week, the family removed her from those systems and she died. The district attorney is charging the first shooter with the murder, since the second shooter (the one who fired the shot that hit the girl) was responding in self-defense. The district attorney is also trying to evict the first shooter from his government housing.

 In Noble, the plaintiff was assaulted in a parking lot at Dodger Stadium and sued the stadium owner on the theory it failed to provide adequate security for its patrons. At trial, the plaintiff' s expert witness opined that the owner should have employed more security guards to patrol the area, and the jury awarded the plaintiff substantial damages. On appeal, the court reversed, holding that "abstract negligence," without proof of a causal connection between the defendant' s breach and the plaintiff' s injury, is insufficient to sustain the award. (Noble, supra, 168 Cal.App.3d at pp. 916, 918.)

NOVEMBER 2004

Alcoholic Myth-of-the-Month: "This defendant's actions are another tragic example of what can occur when bravado and machismo overtake judgment."

So said Deputy District Attorney Tom Rubinson, after sentencing Pete Marron, 20, found guilty of shooting 25-year-old Marc Antenorcruz to death in a Dodger Stadium parking lot after an argument in September 2003. However, it's also what can happen when confronted by an alcoholic.

Rubinson described Antenocruz as having been drinking and belligerent the night of the shooting. Marron may simply have overreacted, after words were exchanged between the two. On the other hand, it may have been a classic case of alcoholic v. alcoholic.

In research I conducted for the section on probabilities of alcoholism in convicted criminals in my first book, Drunks, Drugs & Debits, cop after cop told me the same story: very often, there's heavy drinking on the part of both parties to a dispute. The fact of such drinking is not, in itself, conclusive, but we can increase the odds of alcoholism when there are bad behaviors, regardless of which side is legally at fault.

There is a possibility that both Pete Marron and Marc Antenorcruz lived their short lives as undiagnosed alcoholics. If this is true, because parents, friends and - prior to this murder - law enforcement ignored it, made excuses for it or didn't attempt to coerce abstinence, tragedy was inevitable.

Instead of being "another tragic example of what can occur when bravado and machismo overtake judgment," the actions of both may have been another tragic example of what can happen when alcoholism is allowed to progress unimpeded.

Multiple Stabbing Investigation

Los Angeles: Three men are in custody accused of stabbing a security guard and three vendors.

On July 31, 2005, at about 5:55 p.m., Northeast Area patrol officers responded to a stabbing call at "Gate E" at Dodger Stadium.  Officers discovered that three security guards and approximately 10 to 15 vendors were involved in a dispute over unlicensed merchandise.  That dispute turned into a fight, where four people were stabbed, including one security guard.  The injured were transported to a local hospital and are expected to recover from their injuries.

The security guards involved work for Black Hawk Security and are contracted by Sport Service, a company that sells official Dodger merchandise.  The Los Angeles Dodgers do not employ the guards.

Three of the vendors were arrested for Assault with a Deadly Weapon.  They are 47 year-old Vincent Thomas Hill of Los Angeles, 40 year-old Melvin Benard Robinson of Pomona, and 51 year-old Adrian Renald Herron of Los Angeles.

Anyone with information is requested to contact Northeast Area Detectives at 213-485-2566.  On weekends and during off-hours, call the 24-hour toll free number at the Detective Information Desk, at 1-877-LAWFULL (1-877-529-3855).

Unfortunately, some people take that pursuit of victory too far, such as the hockey dad in Massachusetts now serving six years in the state prison for Murder on account of the fight he had with another child's father following a hockey match that went horribly awry. Then there was the mother in Texas who murdered her cheerleader daughter's rival - again, all in the name of sports competition. And these are only the cases I can think of off the top of my head. Lest we forget, there was a shooting Friday September 19th in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium in an argument over a baseball game - come on, people, it's only a game!

I have been an Angels fan for all my 26 years.  My family had season tickets to the Big A as a kid and I made one trip to LA to see a different park.  No problem and that was 20 years ago.

Currently, my girlfriend and her family are HUGE Dodger fans.  They have season tickets and I make roughly 10 trips a year.  There is little need for fear.  Nobody is going to rob you walking the concourse.  Nobody is going to stab you in the outfield.  True the parking situation sucks, and if people do get rowdy in the crowd, just keep your head down and mind your own business.  This is no different than any other big city in the US.

Giving the Dodgers and their fans shit is part of the game and a lot of fun, but if you genuinely fear Dodger Stadium, you need to get out in the world more.

I am truly offended by some of the comments posted and disappointed that they're condoned. To single out the Mexican race as a whole to bash Dodger stadium is flat out ridiculous.

I can only assume such remarks are made by people that have been victimized by so called "gang banging Mexicans with long shorts and their underwear showing" and for that I am sorry. Please don't let the cowardly acts of stupid individuals be the reason to criticize an entire race.

If these and other degrading remarks such as the "Mexican gardeners" remark were made just to be funny or other reasons, well I feel sorry for you and your ignorance.

As a life long Anaheim resident and Angels fan, I visit this site everyday because I enjoy the various opinions and the baseball knowledge that is shared by most of you. It's also the only place I know where people love the Angels as much as I do. But I guess I can only share in that so long as I'm not "Mexican".

People want to be safe. They don't want to be around Mexican street gangs in shorts with their underwear showing and acting as if they have nothing else to do but be macho and kill someone after they got drunk and high. Especially in the parking lot of Dodger stadium. The white "race" has been overtaken by the Mexican "race" and you have won by 20 lengths. We are fading fast. We are behind the Asians as well. But honestly we don't complain about the "race" (I don't think Mexicans are a Race BTW) we complain for our lack of safety from gangs and that's it. Don't take it personally. If it were two Jews and a hillbilly and they were forming a gang with Granny Goose and a bunch of Africans and they were violent towards people in the parking lot then people would complain.

Not all Mexicans are gang bangers and vice versa. Besides how do you know they are all Mexican? There are other South American gangs in L.A.

If you just said "gang bangers" I would have agreed with you and went about my business. But by singling out one race as well as droping the "Mexican Gardener" stereotype was offensive.

Look, bottom line is we all come here to talk baseball and we're all Angel fans no matter what ethnicity, color or religion.