Mariner's Season Not Over

by Rev Halofan on Aug 1, 2007 11:09 PM PDT in News Comment 67 comments

Blame of the Game: Jered Weaver

Come back or no comeback, you give up six runs to the team closest to us, you get the blame.

In the scheme of things, Seattle really had so much more to lose than us.

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speier

second time he lets a game slip away in extras

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo

by ANewFoundThrice on Aug 1, 2007 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Orlando Cabrera - BOTG

Although, I don't think it was really anyone's fault. It was just a matter of time. But if I had to choose, it was OCab

by Obscurity on Aug 1, 2007 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

OC

by what A game on Aug 1, 2007 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

speier

although it's hard to give it to him when they get two infield singles. Co blame to WTY

by Behind Enemy Lines on Aug 1, 2007 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WTY

by melvintoast on Aug 1, 2007 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Weaver

2nd horrible game in a row

Free Brandon Wood

by edhoo on Aug 1, 2007 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WTY

He set the tone for the game. He wasn't solid, he missed the zone and allowed way too many runs too soon in the game. If he had done better, the later plays wouldn't have mattered as much.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. earl wilson

by ladybug on Aug 1, 2007 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fangraphs says

Speier, but in this case I absolutely agree with WTY. If he even puts out a quality start the Angels win it in regulation.

Hoping Ervin Santana turns it around in Salt Lake. Go, Ervin!

by scareduck on Aug 1, 2007 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah

I say GMJ. Weaver walked one and no HR's, I believe.

But balls were dropping in all over the place around CF.

MTY is a flyball pitcher, he needs someone excellent out there.

by elricsi on Aug 1, 2007 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

GMJ?

Blame of the game?

Are you fucking kidding me?

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 1, 2007 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Way too many possible people to blame, but...

I say no blame this game. A lot of people made key contributions and also pushed us towards the loss.

Light Up That Halo! ...and tell Clutch to chill!

by cardinalwraith on Aug 1, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Maicer Izturis

0-4 and he dropped the double play ball in the 7th that led to Seattle's 6th run.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by WeaverMania on Aug 1, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

um

weaver and speier both pitched bad.

"if you're not first, you're last"- Ricky Bobby

by halobaseball on Aug 1, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

OC

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 1, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow!

I'm not here to talk shit. That was a hard fought game by both teams. One team had to win.

by maxthedrummer on Aug 1, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Did anyone hear Mota just say goodnight?

I don't think he likes not being in the booth.

He sounded crabby.

by bc56274 on Aug 1, 2007 11:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Okay, let's talk positive here. Melvin is right.

Let's talk about why we're going to win the division.

Conversely, let's also talk about how the Mariners are going to choke.

Light Up That Halo! ...and tell Clutch to chill!

by cardinalwraith on Aug 1, 2007 11:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Melvin needs a slumpbuster.

The guy has turned into a softy.

I hope that description isn't too negative for him.

by bc56274 on Aug 1, 2007 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

no shit huh.

by CaLiKrAzY on Aug 1, 2007 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great Game

I blame no one.

by cupie on Aug 1, 2007 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Weaver

What happened to his control and command? Oh well...to Oakland!

by halomatt on Aug 1, 2007 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

BOTG

Nathan Haynes...

3 pitch strikeout with the bases loaded??? Weak.

by Punk Rock Chris on Aug 1, 2007 11:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike Scioscia

for calling upon Haynes to pinch-hit. When's the last time he even saw live pitching? And they call upon him to hit a fly ball? Sorry, I like Mathis' chances a heck of a better there.

by jjackflash on Aug 1, 2007 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bingo

I should be working right now...

by thrill000 on Aug 2, 2007 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scoscia

WTF was he doing taking Mathis out of the game in favor of Haynes? When was the last time Haynes got an AB?

by akathelorax on Aug 1, 2007 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sosh

Also he did not get Oliver on the mound early enough to avoid one extra earned run of Weaver.

--
Kotch 魂！

by mjhsieh on Aug 1, 2007 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

OC or weaver

give it to a couple of players

by UCIHalo on Aug 1, 2007 11:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

have to admit

gmj's two run shot was pretty damn sweet. especially off ol "game over" JJ

by UCIHalo on Aug 1, 2007 11:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WTY

Bad start by any definition.

Assist to the 1B ump for calling Vladdy out despite him being safe.

~Till the Halo burns out...

by Zu Long on Aug 1, 2007 11:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

In regards to the Vlad play

I never saw any real replays. Was he out or safe? Either way, it was a dumb, dumb, dumb slide.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 1, 2007 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Naw he was out.

But if he runs instead of slides he probably beats the throw.

Light Up That Halo! ...and tell Clutch to chill!

by cardinalwraith on Aug 1, 2007 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what I figured

and they told me in T-Ball not to slide into first...especially feet-first.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 1, 2007 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't

That how Johnny Rivers got hurt in the first place?

Light Up That Halo!

by Clutch on Aug 2, 2007 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was safe but we can still blame him because

if he didn't slide he probably would have been CALLED safe.

by melvintoast on Aug 1, 2007 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

naw, he was out..

I think the replays were pretty clear.

things I learned in little league:

on a flyball, first step is always back
pay attention to the game and not the birds in the sky

3)never slide into first

I should be working right now...

by thrill000 on Aug 2, 2007 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not paying attention...

...to the birds in the sky almost cost Dave Winfield his freedom.

DarkAngel hath spoken....

by darkangel01 on Aug 2, 2007 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

poll

do one.

by CaLiKrAzY on Aug 1, 2007 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike Scioscia for pinch hitting Haynes.

That kid has not gotten any playing time so why put him out there with all that pressure. He should have used Matt Brown who is a power hitter and could have gotten us at least a sac fly.

Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by acuda27 on Aug 1, 2007 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

i felt the same

but speier was out there for one inning and was well rested, i mean if it was the middle of his third inning i can see taking the blame off him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo

by ANewFoundThrice on Aug 1, 2007 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

quinlan

I would have used Q, either though it was a right-hander, the guy has more experience at pinch hitting and could have maybe produced a fly ball.

by tanana40 on Aug 2, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some perspective in light of this loss:

It could be a lot worse, folks. Think of the bridge collapse in Minneapolis. A lot of those people were on their to the HHH-dome to see the Twinkies. Fellow baseball fans.

Light Up That Halo! ...and tell Clutch to chill!

by cardinalwraith on Aug 1, 2007 11:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

dang

that was a heart breaker...

by lesserknown on Aug 1, 2007 11:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

and i missed the part where they came back

ugh. a big f u to myself.

by CaLiKrAzY on Aug 1, 2007 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Willits

3 LOB which was tied for the most of any angel player.
0-4 on the night
Had a chance with bases loaded and 2 outs to let a pitch way inside hit him to score the go ahead run

by BoulderBrian on Aug 1, 2007 11:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And he grounded out

on a clear ball 4.

by Caseys Kiss of Death on Aug 1, 2007 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scioscia

I can't think of anyone else... maybe napoli? for being hurt?

by Zookeeper on Aug 1, 2007 11:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

GA

Those weak ass defensive plays early on, proved the difference.

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 1, 2007 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

PS

Don't care about the HR.

That is expected, once in a while.

However, his weak ass plays on balls hit to LF caused at least 1-3 extra runs to be scored.

Easy BOTG.

(FYI, I am a huge GA supporter, and saw his effort in spring training to be a sign of his return. I still believe he'll be incredibly important to this team's pennant run. HOWEVER, tonight, he is BOTG for his poor defensive plays.)

Willits for ROY

by 101halo on Aug 1, 2007 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

2nd inning? It bounced off the wall.

by melvintoast on Aug 2, 2007 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Anderson's defense

is the reason we lost, then don't blame him. Blame Scioscia, because he's the one who puts Anderson in left field and wastes the speed of Reggie Willits at DH. Just like he wasted Juan Rivera's arm at DH so many times last year. This is incredibly stupid, especially with flyball Weaver on the mound.

If I went to war and could only take one weapon, it would be an HK47.

by RallyMonkey5 on Aug 2, 2007 6:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think

That Weaver should get it. However how about The umpires (including our old pal Eddings) 2 plays changed the outcome Vlad out at home and Vlad out at First, both looked pretty close, I think The one at first he was definitely safe and the one at home could have gone either way. The one at first though cost a run and brought a stop to a productive inning for us

by Sinatrasratpack on Aug 2, 2007 8:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

both were close plays, but I felt he was out after looking at the replays.

I should be working right now...

by thrill000 on Aug 2, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nathan Haynes had a downer AB...

I was pretty ticked off at him after not being able to hit the ball into play... Boo.

Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 2, 2007 8:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

How about a Blame on Doug Eddings?

I heard he took his sweet time making the call on the Ichiro to Johjima play on Vladdy. Did he blow the call as usual (I didn't see the play)?

Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 2, 2007 8:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He was just making sure Johjima had the ball

Crap... did I just defend Doug Eddings?!!

I should be working right now...

by thrill000 on Aug 2, 2007 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought he was safe

but the ball arrived before he slid in to home base.

by AMB07 on Aug 2, 2007 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

A couple of more things

It was a great game but:
1-why not bring in Speier in the 7th (although the way he pitched in the 12th???)or bring in a rested Shields at that point.
2-why not use Quinlan as a pinch hitter instead of Haynes (I know Q is a righty but he has more experience)
3-why not, walk Ichiro with first base open in the bottom of the 8th?

by tanana40 on Aug 2, 2007 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree 100%

I said the same thing to myself last night. Ichiro was killing us last night and I would have walked him. Sosh just doesn't play the percentages sometimes and I don't get it

by AMB07 on Aug 2, 2007 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

OC and Sosh

There is no excuse for hitting a pop up behind homeplate with bases loaded and one out. Horrible at bat and I expect more from a veteran.

As to Sosh whay in the world did Haynes pinch hit. My wife, who doesn't follow basebal as much as I do couldn't understand the decision. I can't remember the last time the guy had an at bat. Quinlan should have hit in that situation. I don't care about the righty on righty garbage. Quinlan would have come through in that situation.

by AMB07 on Aug 2, 2007 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

OC last night

reminded me of Doug Decinces, circa 1986.

by Stirrups on Aug 2, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

To Everyone asking about Q

Q is the 3rd string catcher, if something had happened to Budde. Figgy would have been catching.

by Seik1177 on Aug 2, 2007 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh Yeah

No BoTG. It was one of the best games I have seen since Game 6 with all the tension involved.

by Seik1177 on Aug 2, 2007 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Statement Game...

Even though we lost, we showed Seattle that we can hang with them even after spotting them FIVE runs and facing their ACE and their All-Star closer.

I like our chances for the division, and the showing against the Tigers tells me that we have a good chance to go far in the playoffs.

Now, let's not play down to the A's. Go get them, Halos!

Quit yer whinin' and START CHEERING!

by Downing Rules on Aug 2, 2007 12:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yaaaawwwwwnnnnnn.....

The game was good, but there is still such a long way to go. It didn't matter which team won; the playoffs are up for grabs. Watch out for Oakland!

Looking back:

August 2, 2002 GB End result
Mariners 68 42 (no playoffs)
Angels 64 44 3 (World Series Champions)
A's 62 48 6 (AL West Champs)

August 2, 2004
A's 59 45 (no playoffs)
Rangers 57 46 1.5 (no playoffs)
Angels 57 48 2.5 (AL West Champs)

Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 2, 2007 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn my formatting!

Ain't no stoppin' us now. We got the groove!

by Fan Since 1981 on Aug 2, 2007 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Use the <tt> </tt> tags

Looking back:

August 2, 2002 GB End result Mariners 68 42 (no playoffs) Angels 64 44 3 (World Series Champions) A's 62 48 6 (AL West Champs)

August 2, 2004 A's 59 45 (no playoffs) Rangers 57 46 1.5 (no playoffs) Angels 57 48 2.5 (AL West Champs)

by Stirrups on Aug 2, 2007 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellent point!

With HK and Side Salad on the horizon, I'd have to say that the Angels should be getting better. Howie or Nipples in the lineup and the we win Wednesday night.

by melvintoast on Aug 2, 2007 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs